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[Pandarsenic]

In order:

No, Forsaken was defeatist and disruptive. He earned it.
That's an FoS, you idiot.

That vote was indeed for Jokerman's last post. I didn't feel your post being in the way constituted needing to make that more clear. I appear to have overestimated your intelligence, or underestimated the lengths to which you would go to accuse me of, uh. Lurking?

What I was answering was pretty clear if you scroll up like 3 posts. If you can't find it you don't deserve for me to show it to you.

Like I said, Toaster felt a little off but it wasn't enough to earn a vote. Jokerman, the reasons are there so go fuck a goat.

[Leafsnail]

Leafsnail, who else do you think is scum?

My read yesterday of Ethereal.Frog hasn't changed, but he doesn't seem to be here today.  I'd second the call for a prod on him.

Actually, looking back at it, Org is looking like scum as well.

Have I not stated that my problems concur with that of Pandars?
Anyways...
As you have stated, it looks like there is an exterminator. Most likely, anyway.

It is only one person, and I have my feeling of this is true.
Webadict.

Why go for the alien? As he can be just as dangerous, and team up with dopps. Might as well take down a potential ally.

What would make him think that webadict is an alien rather than a dopp?  Why is a potential ally more dangerous than a definate ally?

This looks different from normal Org.  Basically, it's about as useful as normal Org, but it seems like he's trying to pretend to have a more positive impact.  I'd expect town Org to write something like "Hey, webadict is scum, bye".

Third read is weaker, but

@Leafy: Do you have any concrete proof? Because honestly, he seems the same to me. Maybe I haven't played enough games with him, but I don't see any difference yet.

@Soli: I'm not quite sure I follow you on your analysis of the night actions. Admittedly, I don't really understand the whole Alien element of the game. Can you explain harder, or should I just read it slower?

@Toony: I'm still waiting on your reasoning for why I look like scum to you.

I'm not liking the tone of this post.  Since when did mafia require "concrete proof"?  Why defend him when he's annoyed about being attacked for no reason?  His next post is worse though.

Too much intuition where? I didn't know that was a bad thing, either, but show me evidence.

I wasn't buddying Org. I pointed to him as evidence in my case, that's it.

In the meantime, I still want to hear from Pandar. The more he talks, the more scumtells of his I can show the world.

The first part is nothing but defence, and the next part just prods a lurker.  The final sentence is worst though - it looks a lot more like something someone looking for a lynch would say than someone looking for scum.

I'd like to tell everyone who hasn't to look at Org and say what you think.  Too many of us are just ignoring him coz he's Org.

[webadict]

Hmm... I dunno Leafsnail... I like ToonyMan, but your other reads are iffy.

[Toaster]

Leaf:  I'd try to read Org, but trying to read him is like trying to play chess while someone whacks you on the head with a whiffle ball bat.  My best guess is that he either has no leads (more likely) or is scum (less likely), because once he finds something, he runs with it.

Solifuge, question.  You do your long analysis which ends up whiffing onto Mr.Person.  You say you'll correct your observations later, and end up with this post where you do a analysis of the kill chain from last night.  However, you don't even so much as mention a living player's name here. Where's your hunting?

[Solifuge]

Solifuge, question.  You do your long analysis which ends up whiffing onto Mr.Person.  You say you'll correct your observations later, and end up with this post where you do a analysis of the kill chain from last night.  However, you don't even so much as mention a living player's name here. Where's your hunting?

My huinting is not on the events of the past, but in the present. I had wanted to go back over what I'd already done, but sans Mr.Person, there wasn't really anything indicating anyone in the communication between Nuke and others. I'll leave that case open for more info to turn up, rather than spew out another text wall with little definitive substance.

@Soli: I'm not quite sure I follow you on your analysis of the night actions. Admittedly, I don't really understand the whole Alien element of the game. Can you explain harder, or should I just read it slower?

Judging by this response, paired with the bits through this debate, I'd posit that Jokerman-Exe is Scum, with the reasonable possibly of being the Exterminator/Operative. There wasn't anything in the nightkill analysis that was remotely confusing, and feigning ignorance about your role and how it works is a shoddy way to deflect attention. Moreover, trusting others until "concrete proof" against them is displayed makes you seem too in-the-know.

Couple this with your nitpicky bickerings with anyone who attacks you, and your friendly buddying with anyone who leaves you be, you seem highly self-preservationist. You've pegged yourself.

[Mephansteras]

The Whiteboard
Jokerman-EXE : Pandarsenic, Solifuge
Leafsnail : ToonyMan
Pandarsenic : Jokerman-EXE
ToonyMan : Leafsnail, Toaster
webadict : Org


Ethereal.Frog was prodded yesterday. If he doesn't show up by this afternoon I'm going to look for a replacement.

[ToonyMan]

Org isn't being overstupid which he always over does as scum so I'm saying town right now.

[Org]

Sorry for being gone, my internets were being unable to connect.

And leaf, if I had done that, everyone would be like, No vote someone who have reasons for or something.
So I did.

[Toaster]

Soli: Fair enough.

Do we need an extension since we might be getting a replacement, and several people haven't voted?

[Leafsnail]

Leaf:  I'd try to read Org, but trying to read him is like trying to play chess while someone whacks you on the head with a whiffle ball bat.  My best guess is that he either has no leads (more likely) or is scum (less likely), because once he finds something, he runs with it.

I believe he does have reads - just reads which are really different to those of a normal player.

Specifically, if it's trying to look helpful, he's probably scum.

Sorry for being gone, my internets were being unable to connect.

And leaf, if I had done that, everyone would be like, No vote someone who have reasons for or something.
So I did.

But you usually do that... indeed, you usually don't care what anyone thinks of your actions.  The "everyone would be like" is telling.

Hmm... I dunno Leafsnail... I like ToonyMan, but your other reads are iffy.

Just recheck Org... I am of the opinion he doesn't care what anyone thinks AT ALL when town.  I mean, even when you're yelling at him, he's still just as likely to post a 5 word vote switch.  However, as scum, I think he cares what other people think, since he's trying to avoid a lynch.

Note - I'm not saying it's bad to care what other people think - just that Org doesn't do it as town.

[Mephansteras]

Question for everyone:

Right now the day is set to end at ~5pm pacific today. However, we also need a replacement for Ethereal.Frog, so I'm tempted to extend until tomorrow.

But...I'm going to be out of town from Friday to Sunday/Monday. Which means Night 2 would probably go until Monday night or Tuesday morning.

I could extend day 2 out to Monday, which might be a bit easier.

Preferences?

[Org]

I think you are overthinking it.

I use reason occasionally.

And extend if looking for a replace.

[ToonyMan]

Yeah EXTEND this badboy to Monday.

[Pandarsenic]

Yeah EXTEND this badboy to Monday.

Yes please.

[JanusTwoface]

I spent the day in the sun and am now literally fried. So an extension sounds great. Till whenever works for you. Fibgers crossed for a good replacement.