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[shadowform]

So I'm considering a Sparta-style fortress in light of the new, automated military system.  The basic idea is as such:

-All dwarves (women included; exposing children to war at a young age will make them tougher and thin the weak) will be a part of a military squad.  They will be assigned a bronze axe, bronze helm, bronze shield, and bronze breastplate.
-Each military squad spends 3 months with everyone set to train, with the remainder set to have only two dwarves train (preference settings set to be the captain, with the other being random).
-Any dwarves with below average strength or toughness will be sent to the slave-pits, sealed off from the rest of society, and forced to create coffins and rock crafts until they die of exhaustion and starvation.
-Any dwarves that have created an artifact will be moved into an elite group and issued bronze leggings in addition to their normal attire. 
-Stone will be quarried, turned into blocks, and a city will be built above ground.  It won't actually be lived in since we're dwarves, but it gives us something to do between butchering goblins and elves.
-Speaking of which, we will be butchering the elves.

Yes, the spartans used spears, but I don't think spears are very dwarfy.  Also, axes cause more blood loss.

Anyone have anything else to add to the list?

[nervousmigrants]

Are you willing to mod the dwarven civ to make it more spartan?

[Urist mc.miner]

This is madness!

[shadowform]

Are you willing to mod the dwarven civ to make it more spartan?

Depends on what you have in mind.

[Raviaric]

This is madness!

THIS IS BOATMURDERED

[nervousmigrants]

Well, there are the simple, historically accurate things, like using the caste tags to separate your warriors from your workers (spartiates vs. perioikoi), making iron valid coinage...  Nothing TOO serious, just fun.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparta for ideas.  Or watch 300.  Those Spartans are way more exaggeratedly awesome (read: dwarven) than the real ones.

[Urist mc.miner]

THIS...IS...DWARF FORRRTRESSSS!

[shadowform]

Well, there are the simple, historically accurate things, like using the caste tags to separate your warriors from your workers (spartiates vs. perioikoi), making iron valid coinage...  Nothing TOO serious, just fun.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparta for ideas.  Or watch 300.  Those Spartans are way more exaggeratedly awesome (read: dwarven) than the real ones.

It's a somewhat abstracted version.  Like I said: the weak are dropped into pits and worked to death, everyone else is assumed to be a warrior.  I suppose I could dump food down there and route some water through it so they can live in squalor until they go berserk with unhappiness and need to be put down by the...  actually I kind of like that idea.

Also, iron coins are a fun idea.  I like the concept of non-standard coinage.

[Rex_Nex]

Don't forget the dining room in hell, for that is the spartan way. Oh, and make a 50 zlevel deep pit, and try to kick an elf down it.

[Nikov]

Suggestions.

1. Women do not fight. If her husband cannot protect her, she shouldn't have married such a weakling. Women manage all the crafts, trades and professions.
2. Anyone arrested for failure of a mandate becomes a helot, is stripped of rights and possessions, and gets crappy jobs like farming.
3. Helot is a hereditary curse, extending to spouses and children indefinately.
4. Dwarven citizen-infants will be inspected for personality flaws (non-traditional, non-dutiful, non-disciplined). Failing infants will be killed, the mother spared. Figure out how to do that and win a cookie. Should this not work, they become helots.
5. All male, unmarried dwarven citizens are part-time marksdwarves, hunters, woodcutters or miners. Excluding emergencies, these troops are preserved if possible.
6. All male, married dwarven citizens with at least one non-flawed son become full time infantry with bronze armor and an iron or steel spear. These troops must be presented for noble and manly combat with sieging foes.
7. All male, crippled or invalid citizens get life pensions training recruits, occupying office jobs or just impregnating their wives.
8. Nobles must be obeyed and protected.
9. Elves must not be trusted.
10. No matter the social crisis, tradition must be upheld.

[shadowform]

Don't forget the dining room in hell, for that is the spartan way. Oh, and make a 50 zlevel deep pit, and try to kick an elf down it.

You know, having the gigantic kicking pit may be the sole reason to build the city above ground.

Suggestions.

Suggestions.

1. Women do not fight. If her husband cannot protect her, she shouldn't have married such a weakling. Women manage all the crafts, trades and professions.
2. Anyone arrested for failure of a mandate becomes a helot, is stripped of rights and possessions, and gets crappy jobs like farming.
3. Helot is a hereditary curse, extending to spouses and children indefinately.
4. Dwarven citizen-infants will be inspected for personality flaws (non-traditional, non-dutiful, non-disciplined). Failing infants will be killed, the mother spared. Figure out how to do that and win a cookie. Should this not work, they become helots.
5. All male, unmarried dwarven citizens are part-time marksdwarves, hunters, woodcutters or miners. Excluding emergencies, these troops are preserved if possible.
6. All male, married dwarven citizens with at least one non-flawed son become full time infantry with bronze armor and an iron or steel spear. These troops must be presented for noble and manly combat with sieging foes.
7. All male, crippled or invalid citizens get life pensions training recruits, occupying office jobs or just impregnating their wives.
8. Nobles must be obeyed and protected.
9. Elves must not be trusted.
10. No matter the social crisis, tradition must be upheld.

A lot of these ideas would severely limit the military pool...  in the real Sparta where you're talking a scale of thousands it works, but when you're dealing with 100 or fewer dwarves, you can't be quite so picky about not allowing able-bodied women, unmarried men, and childless men to fight.

[Nikov]

Which is why your military would nessiciarly be incredible badasses.

[shadowform]

Which is why your military would nessiciarly be incredible badasses.

Why have five incredible badasses when you can have 30?

[Urist mc.miner]

Why have 30 badass units when you can have..300!!

[shadowform]

Why have 30 badass units when you can have..300!!

Because that would result in fps death