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[Cheeetar]

So, what you believe is that both me and Webadict are town, and this is just all a horrible misunderstanding?

[Pandarsenic]

I feel like you two might, in all probability, both be too full of your own certainty to do anything BUT attack each other because you want so hard to be right.

[Zako]

Sorry, I must be missing something. Point out where Solifuge is scummy.

I have pointed out plenty of scummy things he did. Here they are:

Wow, you guys sure move fast when I sleep. But first:

As for Webby and Zako, you're both arguing. It's not that you're arguing with eachother, but here:

Apparently, these are the "wrong reasons":
- Zako is Scum, as evidenced by his non-sequitur logic. It's poorly constructed and artificial, used to cover up his lack of actual fear or suspicion (being scum, he knows who is who).

I am not arguing with webadict at all. He seems a bit scummy to me, sure, but this post is more scummy than almost everything web has said. Making evidence where there is none? Extremely scummy. I challenge you to find an actual post where webadict and I argued and post it. If you can't find one, your scum, if you do, which you wont by the way, then then what of it? The game is about arguing about who is scum. Not randomly popping in from lurker status and saying "OMGZ HE IZ SCUMZORZ CUZ HE'S PLAYING!!!". And what is non-sequitur logic for the uninformed? Please speak straight english instead of wrapping it in fancy words to hide scumtells. Not to mention my logic is actually easy to follow and factual, unlike yours, since I have actually POSTED my proof instead of saying that it's there for you to find. My suspicion is that your making this up in an effort to get a quick lynch which is scummy to da max. And lack of fear is a towntell as fearing for your own life is scummy as its a TEAM game, not an individual game. Not to mention that here he goes back on himself:

They are not arguing with one another. They are pursuing separate arguments. Also, I believe them both to be scum, though betwixt the two I'm leaning more heavily on Webadict for his actions, and Zako being a hard-charging noob.

Also also, I think they smell, and I dislike their faces.

First, we're arguing, now you're saying i'm scummy for not getting on the webadict bandwagon? And, forgive me for being hard-charging, but being passive or suggesting being being passive to another is a massive scumtell as it's anti-town. Town doesn't win by being passive.

Holy carp... 10 pages of bickering already. Lots of chances for a portal into your heads though, and I think I detected at least 1 slip-up.

Webadict and Zako, since you're arguing here, why not settle things on THE FIELD OF BATTLE?

Cheeetar has indeed made a point when he referenced this post, where is this slip-up you talk about? You haven't posted it, so I must assume you're making it up, and thats really scummy of you. But enough bashing, I'm turning my attention on someone new. Namely Ottofar:

Unvote Ottofar, Vote Solifuge. This guy looks really scummy, probably more so than jim.

Solifuge is being so obviously scum that no scum would do that without being told to.

And webadict seems more of a jester than cheeetar to me.

I'd prefer to see Ottofar and Solifuge in the ring. They seem so scummy that it's not funny.

[Cheeetar]

That... isn't very good reasoning. I'd point out why but then Webadict would jump up and down shouting 'BUDDYING' and 'ACTIVE LURKING OBVSCUM' because he always likes to put in the last one.

[Jim Groovester]

Trust me, I know your shit. You're trying to sound all innocent by just phrasing it as a question. What you really want people to do is vote Web, Zako, or GeneralGuy. I mean, you fucking admitted it. So we know your real motive and that you didn't state your real motive upfront. So why in the world would a townie try and hide his motives like Cheeetar just did? Doesn't make much sense, but it makes perfect sense for scum to try and stay hidden.

Also, it's very obvious judging by your wording that you didn't mind at all if GeneralGuy gets lynched. You put him before Zako. If you really wanted Zako lynched over GeneralGuy, wouldn't you have listed Zako first and tried telling people to unvote Zako and vote GeneralGuy? Would you have even listed GeneralGuy at all? Why no, no you wouldn't. But if you were scum and all three were town, would you really give a flying fuck which one gets lynched? No, and since you don't care which one gets lynched, you're obvious scum.

Unvote Solifuge, vote Cheeetar

Cheeetar's been pretty clear and upfront about what he's been doing so far, so I don't see how he's hiding his motives.

And when you vote somebody because of the order they put names, quite frankly, you're full of crap.

In grand total, this is a whole bunch of crap, Mr. Person. It would make me suspect you if you didn't do stuff like this all the time.

Not really. It's his whle attitude that doesn't feel like scum, not particular actions.

Well, if you can just ignore people's actions and look at their attitude, and you can trust your 'intuition' without justification, then I can do the same.

I've got this feeling that if webadict isn't scum Pandarsenic is.

But you know, it's my intuition. Completely untouchable.

[Ottofar]

I'm going to our summer cottage for over the weekend, to see if it's livable. I wasn't told about this, sorry. Anyways, I can make myself lynch-immune if I want, (I can't post then,) and that's what I'm going to do, after this post.

Anyways, the scummiest people are Webadict,
Zako, just the vibes.
Solifuge, lurky.
Generalguy, but that's probably newbishness.

*enter lurkfield*

(I'm unvotable now, but I can't post. Even if I could, I'm at our summer cottage. No internet.)

[Pandarsenic]

Well, if you can just ignore people's actions and look at their attitude, and you can trust your 'intuition' without justification, then I can do the same.

I've got this feeling that if webadict isn't scum Pandarsenic is.

But you know, it's my intuition. Completely untouchable.

My intuition shows me when people are being scum. Like GeneralGuy and Soli. The rest are town or third-party by the wonders of Process of Elimination.

[Jim Groovester]

And your intuition provides you cover so you don't have to give reasons for anything. And it's an infuriating response to any questions posed to you.

Looking through the thread, you've been very light on posts, but even lighter on anything actually substantial. So you can tell me what your reasons are for voting Solifuge and GeneralGuy. I don't want your intuition, because I think you're full of crap right now. Prove me wrong.

Also, what Ottofar just did looks really scummy. He didn't need to activate his power; people would have given him leeway since he explained why he wouldn't be posting.

Also, Ottofar's role is totally based off of me.

[Leafsnail]

You are all casually discussing who should be lynched today, when you suddenly realise that Ottofar is nowhere to be seen!  It's almost as if he vanished into thin air...

You can find no trace of him, and have no way to determine what his alignment was.  Confused, you return to the day's discussion.

The "Vanished without a trace" Votecount:

ToonyMan: Org
webadict: Jim Groovester, GeneralGuy, Cheeetar, Solifuge
GeneralGuy: tehstefan, Org, Jokerman-EXE, webadict, Pandarsenic, Solifuge
Cheeetar: webadict, Mr.Person
Zako: Jokerman-EXE, Cheeetar, ToonyMan
Solifuge: Pandarsenic, ToonyMan
Pandarsenic: GeneralGuy
Jokerman-EXE: Zako
tehstefan: Jim Groovester, Mr.Person

Votes left over: tehstefan, Zako

Deadline friday.

[Pandarsenic]

And your intuition provides you cover so you don't have to give reasons for anything. And it's an infuriating response to any questions posed to you.

Looking through the thread, you've been very light on posts, but even lighter on anything actually substantial. So you can tell me what your reasons are for voting Solifuge and GeneralGuy. I don't want your intuition, because I think you're full of crap right now. Prove me wrong.

Also, what Ottofar just did looks really scummy. He didn't need to activate his power; people would have given him leeway since he explained why he wouldn't be posting.

Also, Ottofar's role is totally based off of me.

Better idea. I'm going to go sleep, you can read my posts for real at the times they earned my votes.

[Jim Groovester]

You mean these posts?

Unvote Wubadict and Org, vote Solifuge.

I'll pick out a second later but Solifuge is looking like a decent bet as a scumface so far.

The two posts I quoted. The first one he refers to some "at least 1" unknown "slip-up", and promptly votes Zako and... Wubadict?

Upon having the fact that those two haven't argued at all pointed out, he...

WIFOM'd like a madman, pointed out that Zako used the Toony Tunnel (on purpose or accidentally [should we still use that name now that Toony rarely does it?]), and... insists that Wubadict and Zako were arguing, instead of, y'know, agreeing about Jim Groovester?

He's voting those two without regards to reality, at all, whatsoever.

Hell, I haven't placed my second vote and OMGUSing GeneralGuy (or more accurately, going along with the obvtown who thinks he's scum) can't go totally wrong.

Yes, being completely wrong about what Solifuge was saying and going along with webadict are excellent reasons to vote people.

Unvote tehstefan. Pandarsenic, unless he has more to add about his votes.

[Zako]

Well, I have been saying how scummy Ottofar looks. You just saw it for yourself now. No reasoning, no proof, little comments, lurking.

Ottofar = scum

Unvote Jokerman-EXE Solifuge is obvscum so we should be rid of him to push whoever is controlling him out into the open and I will leave it at that since I was gonna vote Ottofar but he's vanished.

Pandar's solifuge vote looks legit, but I don't see why he's voting for General. Why are you voting for general Pandar?

[Jokerman-EXE]

Zako, all you did was quote Solifuge and then say, "See here, where he's acting so scummy it must be scum telling him to be scummy?"

You can read anything with a mindset like that and pick out scumtells. It's unavoidable. What you're doing is forcing your preconception onto everything you quoted. Pick out the specifics and let us see them.

[Solifuge]

Well, I am the WIFOM Wizard... I suppose it is almost my duty to defend my honor in Magical Merlinface Mafia or whatever the hell this is. Even so, it'd be preferable to get two scum, or a brave town who knows they'll win the battle over a scum opponent.

But no, Zako is Wacko. You see things that aren't there, and create meanings to satisfy your preconceptions. You are trying to prove yourself right, by running all the facts and realities through a scum-tinted lense.

If you knew my playstyle, you'd know I would never offer to be "controlled" by teammates, unless I'm acting as bait for a confirmed high-value Townie. Self-Sacrifice on a scum team is a terrible idea, unless your death guarantees that your few buddies can pull the extra weight. Besides, I'm usually the one pulling the stringes. I'm far too self-aggrandizing to ever condone my own death.

Anywho, I am Unvoting All, including you, because I'm garnering the feeling that you're just a paranoid townie. My votes are being stockpiled, as I reassess the comming battle.

[Solifuge]

Alright, screw this. Guys: We're going to lynch Webadict. This is a thing that's going to happen. We're going to lynch Webadict. If he turns out town (hint: he's scum) we're going to lynch me, because a town as skilled as Webadict would never be wrong about who scum is. I don't want Webadict to wriggle out of being lynched, so: We're going to lynch Webadict. You who believe Webadict: Lynching him will confirm him and gain the lynch of me afterwards, and since I'm so obviously scum by Webadict's arguments ("He's obvscum guys. He's obvscum for voting for me, and also because he's obvscum."), that will mean 1 scum death.

We lynch Webadict, he's town. We lynch me. 1 town, 1 scum dead.
We lynch Webadict, he's scum (HE IS). 1 scum dead.

Easy.

You know... I almost heard Webadict talking through you there, Cheeetar. I have this strange sense that this was a bussing strategy developed in scumchat, but I can't say why. :3