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[Zako]

Wow, you guys sure move fast when I sleep. But first:

As for Webby and Zako, you're both arguing. It's not that you're arguing with eachother, but here:

Apparently, these are the "wrong reasons":
- Zako is Scum, as evidenced by his non-sequitur logic. It's poorly constructed and artificial, used to cover up his lack of actual fear or suspicion (being scum, he knows who is who).

I am not arguing with webadict at all. He seems a bit scummy to me, sure, but this post is more scummy than almost everything web has said. Making evidence where there is none? Extremely scummy. I challenge you to find an actual post where webadict and I argued and post it. If you can't find one, your scum, if you do, which you wont by the way, then then what of it? The game is about arguing about who is scum. Not randomly popping in from lurker status and saying "OMGZ HE IZ SCUMZORZ CUZ HE'S PLAYING!!!". And what is non-sequitur logic for the uninformed? Please speak straight english instead of wrapping it in fancy words to hide scumtells. Not to mention my logic is actually easy to follow and factual, unlike yours, since I have actually POSTED my proof instead of saying that it's there for you to find. My suspicion is that your making this up in an effort to get a quick lynch which is scummy to da max. And lack of fear is a towntell as fearing for your own life is scummy as its a TEAM game, not an individual game. Not to mention that here he goes back on himself:

They are not arguing with one another. They are pursuing separate arguments. Also, I believe them both to be scum, though betwixt the two I'm leaning more heavily on Webadict for his actions, and Zako being a hard-charging noob.

Also also, I think they smell, and I dislike their faces.

First, we're arguing, now you're saying i'm scummy for not getting on the webadict bandwagon? And, forgive me for being hard-charging, but being passive or suggesting being being passive to another is a massive scumtell as it's anti-town. Town doesn't win by being passive.

You really tried to fish a role out of me, dude. That ain't cool, bro.

OMGUSing now are you jim? I already made my logical connection before with your knowledge of toonyman's alignment. The only way you knew if he was innocent is if you are scum or an investigative role, and as i said before, you are most likely scum. And where exactly have I posted my 'rolefishing'? You aren't posting proof, just like solifuge above.

Zako, you're tunneling to an abnormal degree, and your logic seems kind of scattered. In the six pages that I just read, I saw you make a total of one argument, and not even very well.

I'm not saying that Jim is Town, but Zako seems to be giving off a lot more scumvibe than Jim. We'll see on the FIELD OF BATTLE.

In the meantime, Webadict because he asked for it.

Well well well, look whos come out of lurking. And what's the first thing he does? He bandwagon's. That's scummy Jokerman.

Holy carp... 10 pages of bickering already. Lots of chances for a portal into your heads though, and I think I detected at least 1 slip-up.

Webadict and Zako, since you're arguing here, why not settle things on THE FIELD OF BATTLE?

Cheeetar has indeed made a point when he referenced this post, where is this slip-up you talk about? You haven't posted it, so I must assume you're making it up, and thats really scummy of you. But enough bashing, I'm turning my attention on someone new. Namely Ottofar:

Well now.        Unvote

I'm certain that webadict is scum (he even said that himself). He also seems to be protecting Zako. (My best bet right now, Zako might still change. As might webadict, if something miraculous happens)

Here he does two things that stand out; The most obvious one is bandwagoning, which he does twice. Scummy. Second is lack of posted proof. Scummy again. You cant really post this stuff with out proof man, it looks scummy. But still, your not as scummy as others. And I just noticed that you OMGUS'd me here too with that vote and haven't answered my question when I poked you before...

Unvote Ottofar, Vote Solifuge. This guy looks really scummy, probably more so than jim.

[webadict]

Yeah I'm unvoting Pandarsenic and voting Jim Groovy.  You don't stop arguments on your own accord.

I have no idea what you're talking about or what this even refers to.

I don't honestly think Webadict is scum. From what I've seen, he never acts quite like this with scum. As well, it seems completely counterproductive to be doing this if he was scum. Webadict is very good when he's scum, and this just doesn't seem like webadict scum.

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Argh. EBWOP

As for Generalguy, I'm still not exactly sure I don't see you as scum. It makes sense you would be jumpy, very true, but I'm still watching you. Something about you makes me suspicious.

Ottofar, how about you answer my question I asked you earlier? I've not seen you contribute much, so why not chime in some? I'd like to at least hear who you think are scum, beyond webadict.

I don't like what you're doing so I'm watching you.

Wuba = obvtown to the max

Anyone who votes for him from here out is scum.

How do you figure? I've looked closely at everything he's said so far, and none of it adds up to webadict's usual town behavior.

Well, you said I should be less likely scum, but you never explained why, and then you switched to saying that I'm clearly scum.

Thus, you are scum.

Hmm. So rapid changes in people's suspicions means they're scum?

You switched pretty quickly from me being scum to me being town. How are you town?

Except he had no rationale to believe EITHER of the things he claimed.

I am Town because my role PM said so. Had it said mafia or serial killer, I would not be Town. You should know how reading works.

[Zako]

How are we supposed to know what your PM said? You can't post it here, it's against the rules.

[Jokerman-EXE]

Zako, you're tunneling to an abnormal degree, and your logic seems kind of scattered. In the six pages that I just read, I saw you make a total of one argument, and not even very well.

I'm not saying that Jim is Town, but Zako seems to be giving off a lot more scumvibe than Jim. We'll see on the FIELD OF BATTLE.

In the meantime, Webadict because he asked for it.

Well well well, look whos come out of lurking. And what's the first thing he does? He bandwagon's. That's scummy Jokerman.

Lawl, crappy cover is crappy.

For one thing, it's not lurking when the game starts and I post the next morning. That's called sleep.

And secondly, I'm voting you because you're acting the scummiest, mmk, with me so far? And that's who I vote for. It's not really a bandwagon when the six pages I had to read were you acting like scum, and other people noticed it too.

Mmk? Good talk, champ.

[Zako]

How am I scummy? Show me where I'm scummy before you accuse me of being scum.

Fair enough with the sleep, but you have bandwagoned nonetheless. You jumped on webadict and me when others are doing the same. Show us proof of why you aren't bandwagoning.

[Jokerman-EXE]

Here I am scummy.

Seriously dude, I'm not going to quote every single time you were tunneling, which I specifically stated was the scummy act I was looking at you for.

YES, I VOTED YOU WHEN YOU HAD OTHER VOTES. THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE SO BLATANTLY SCUMMY THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS VOTING FOR YOU. As I explained (here, again, reading my posts would be helpful to you) I voted Web because I thought he wanted to be in the arena. Failing that, I moved my vote to whom I thought was scum.

You, instead of shaking me off your scummy little trail, are instead convincing me more and more that you're scum. You're defensive and reactive and I haven't seen you actually hunt yet, aside from the one post you made when you came back online. More of that, please, because that's the only way my vote will even begin to budge, is if I see you hunting scum.

[Mr.Person]

Zako is town. Webadict is retarded scum. Jim is pissing me off. Solifuge is obviously scum. Jokerman's argument is bullshit. Not sure about anybody else.

More later. Sorry, can't post much now.

[Jim Groovester]

OMGUSing now are you jim? I already made my logical connection before with your knowledge of toonyman's alignment. The only way you knew if he was innocent is if you are scum or an investigative role, and as i said before, you are most likely scum. And where exactly have I posted my 'rolefishing'? You aren't posting proof, just like solifuge above.

OMGUS is rarely a scum tell. Invoking OMGUS usually is much more frequently a scum tell, but not always.

Rolefishing = Attempting to find out information about a player's role. It's incredibly scummy. You were doing this like it was going out of style.

By accusing me of being scum or an investigative role, you were putting pressure on me to reveal my role, since if I were scum I would not likely openly admit to it. Since you're big on proof, even though all of your proof is crap, I'll quote a few posts of you rolefishing.

I actually have proof, unlike you jim. My proof is that how can you be so sure that ToonyMan is not scum? A ordinary townie wouldn't know, they would be suspicious instead and leave ToonyMan to defend himself and then gauge his reaction to see if he's scum. The only way you would know if he's scum or not is if you are scumbuddies with him or are an investigative role of some kind. Either way, you will die quickly and odds are you are scum since an investigative role would be quiet this early in the game.

Unvote ToonyMan, Vote Jim Groovester. Do not blame my inexperience for your scummyness, scum.

You're changing the issue, the point is not if you said ToonyMan was or was not town, the point is that you supported him with no evidence saying that he was town unless you knew before hand that he was, either though being scumbuddies or investigating and saying that your an investigating role is unlikely, so therefore you are SCUM.

Or you can confess to being an investigator role and see how far that get's you.

So logically, the only way you knew he's innocent is if you investigated him, or are scumbuddies with him. Scum is more likely since you don't want to advertise your investigative abilities. Actually read my evidence before you try to rebut it please.

Is that enough proof for you?

[Jokerman-EXE]

Zako is town. Webadict is retarded scum. Jim is pissing me off. Solifuge is obviously scum. Jokerman's argument is bullshit. Not sure about anybody else.

More later. Sorry, can't post much now.

And the award for most bullshit EVERYTHING ABOUT HIS ARGUMENT goes to...

Oh wait, not Mr.Person, because he doesn't have an argument.

Seriously, are you kidding me? Way to try to protect your scumbuddy Zako, Mr.P. Let's see some evidence or an actual accusation, hmm? I'll wait, I know you can't post much tonight.

[Zako]

Here I am scummy.

Seriously dude, I'm not going to quote every single time you were tunneling, which I specifically stated was the scummy act I was looking at you for.

YES, I VOTED YOU WHEN YOU HAD OTHER VOTES. THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE SO BLATANTLY SCUMMY THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS VOTING FOR YOU. As I explained (here, again, reading my posts would be helpful to you) I voted Web because I thought he wanted to be in the arena. Failing that, I moved my vote to whom I thought was scum.

You, instead of shaking me off your scummy little trail, are instead convincing me more and more that you're scum. You're defensive and reactive and I haven't seen you actually hunt yet, aside from the one post you made when you came back online. More of that, please, because that's the only way my vote will even begin to budge, is if I see you hunting scum.

I do believe that you still haven't posted any actual proof. And I was scumhunting, I just found that jim was scum and was forcing it out of him. That's what town does, they look for scum then focus on that scum to lynch him. You're voting for me because you want me out and are trying to do it by bandwagoning. That is scummy. I have been scumhunting more than you in this thread, and yet your scumhunting is getting on a bandwagon?

OMGUSing now are you jim? I already made my logical connection before with your knowledge of toonyman's alignment. The only way you knew if he was innocent is if you are scum or an investigative role, and as i said before, you are most likely scum. And where exactly have I posted my 'rolefishing'? You aren't posting proof, just like solifuge above.

OMGUS is rarely a scum tell. Invoking OMGUS usually is much more frequently a scum tell, but not always.

Rolefishing = Attempting to find out information about a player's role. It's incredibly scummy. You were doing this like it was going out of style.

By accusing me of being scum or an investigative role, you were putting pressure on me to reveal my role, since if I were scum I would not likely openly admit to it. Since you're big on proof, even though all of your proof is crap, I'll quote a few posts of you rolefishing.

I actually have proof, unlike you jim. My proof is that how can you be so sure that ToonyMan is not scum? A ordinary townie wouldn't know, they would be suspicious instead and leave ToonyMan to defend himself and then gauge his reaction to see if he's scum. The only way you would know if he's scum or not is if you are scumbuddies with him or are an investigative role of some kind. Either way, you will die quickly and odds are you are scum since an investigative role would be quiet this early in the game.

Unvote ToonyMan, Vote Jim Groovester. Do not blame my inexperience for your scummyness, scum.

You're changing the issue, the point is not if you said ToonyMan was or was not town, the point is that you supported him with no evidence saying that he was town unless you knew before hand that he was, either though being scumbuddies or investigating and saying that your an investigating role is unlikely, so therefore you are SCUM.

Or you can confess to being an investigator role and see how far that get's you.

So logically, the only way you knew he's innocent is if you investigated him, or are scumbuddies with him. Scum is more likely since you don't want to advertise your investigative abilities. Actually read my evidence before you try to rebut it please.

Is that enough proof for you?

You're trying to undermine my arguement, which is you knowing of ToonyMan's innocence with no proof, which leads to being a cop or scum. I said that you were scum, since cop is not probable and you have confirmed my suspicions that you are scum. And this is like the first time you have actually tried to post proof to get me off your case, which means you are desperate to hide, which is scummy.

[Jokerman-EXE]

/double take

Am...did I post that? Oh yeah. I did. And in that post, I'm pretty sure I just addressed every point you're now making. Huh.

1. I didn't post "actual proof" because there was six pages of it, go take your own pick if you want to see proof of you tunneling.

2. You found Jim was scum? Whoa man. That would be impressive if Jim wasn't the guy you've been tunneling for almost seven pages now.

3. It would be incredible of you to know my reasons for voting you, except for two small details: A. You don't know, and B. I'm voting you because I believe you're scum, not because it's a convenient bandwagon. If I was the only one voting you, I would still believe your sorry ass is scum.

4. You haven't been scumhunting more, dude. You've been trying to wear Jim down for this entire time. Rolefishing, tunneling, and being a general scummy player does not constitute hunting.

[Jim Groovester]

Zako's stuck in a scum feedback loop. Everything I do only convinces him more and more that I am scum.

[webadict]

You guys, GeneralGuy is clearly scum.

[ToonyMan]

Zako's stuck in a scum feedback loop. Everything I do only convinces him more and more that I am scum.

You do the same thing, haha.

[Pandarsenic]

Hell, I haven't placed my second vote and OMGUSing GeneralGuy (or more accurately, going along with the obvtown who thinks he's scum) can't go totally wrong.