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[Zako]

Or you can confess to being an investigator role and see how far that get's you.

[Jim Groovester]

Tsk. Tsk.

Rolefishing? That's scummy.

You're changing the issue, the point is not if you said ToonyMan was or was not town, the point is that you supported him with no evidence saying that he was town unless you knew before hand that he was, either though being scumbuddies or investigating and saying that your an investigating role is unlikely, so therefore you are SCUM.

It is critical to your accusation that I said ToonyMan was town. I did no such thing. This thread has the record of everything I've said in this game so far, and it does not lie. You can go check to see if I said ToonyMan was town, but you will find no post of mine saying anything to the effect, and no edit signatures on any of my posts.

I have disproved the basis of your accusation, and now you are left empty-handed. What will you think of next?

[Zako]

Did you even read my post? No? Well here it is again:

You're changing the issue, the point is not if you said ToonyMan was or was not town, the point is that you supported him with no evidence saying that he was town unless you knew before hand that he was, either though being scumbuddies or investigating and saying that your an investigating role is unlikely, so therefore you are SCUM.

Here's more focus on what's important:

You're changing the issue, the point is not if you said ToonyMan was or was not town, the point is that you supported him with no evidence saying that he was town unless you knew before hand that he was, either though being scumbuddies or investigating and saying that your an investigating role is unlikely, so therefore you are SCUM.

...the point is not if you said ToonyMan was or was not town, the point is that you supported him with no evidence saying that he was town unless you knew before hand that he was...

So logically, the only way you knew he's innocent is if you investigated him, or are scumbuddies with him. Scum is more likely since you don't want to advertise your investigative abilities. Actually read my evidence before you try to rebut it please.

[Cheeetar]

The problem, Zako, is that you're not pointing out where he did it. If you would simply quote the post in which he supported Toonyman with no evidence saying he was town, this would be simpler, rather than him saying 'no I didn't' and you saying 'yes you did'.

[Zako]

The problem, Zako, is that you're not pointing out where he did it. If you would simply quote the post in which he supported Toonyman with no evidence saying he was town, this would be simpler, rather than him saying 'no I didn't' and you saying 'yes you did'.

Now this, is a lot more helpful. Here's the post:

I didn't believe him either but I just checked. He really hasn't been in any of the Wizard Duels.

The games are a few pages back, so you could go check yourself if you don't believe ToonyMan and me.

[Pandarsenic]

That... has absolutely nothing to do with alignments, anywhere, at all.

[Zako]

I admit that it's not really interesting, but it got my interest so I pushed him to see what will happen and here's what I got:

Jim, I do believe that's buddying, which if I'm not mistaken, is a scumtell. If he's town, he can prove it himself. Jim Groovester, you are scum. Prove me otherwise.

Toonyman, you're off the hook, but I'm watching you...

That's not how this game works, Zako. The burden of proof lies upon you to prove me scum, and failing that, to provide enough evidence that everyone can agree upon that shows I am more suspicious then the next person.

Consider why you are accusing me. I corrected you. Anybody could have corrected you. You could have corrected yourself. Would you accuse everybody who corrected you of being scum?

You being wrong about ToonyMan's participation in Wizard Duels is a non-issue. Likewise, me correcting you is also a non-issue.

What is an issue, is that you think it is. You're new, so I'm going to assume that you just don't know how to go about this game, before I assume you're scum. Well, here's a hint: you're going about it all wrong.

I don't know how to correct your play in such a short amount of time, so you'll have to just figure it out on your own. But at the very least you should know that you don't accuse people of being scum over non-issues and demand they prove their innocence.

A wall of text that hides an overreaction, as webadict said before, to a small push. Why would he do that?

[Jim Groovester]

That's not an overreaction. That's a pedantic explanation of why you were wrong, along with some guidelines for a n00b like you.

webadict claiming it was an overreaction is him grasping at straws to find dirt to throw at me.

Why are you taking cues from webadict and buddying up to him?

[Zako]

I was only referencing webadict so you would know where the term overreaction came from. And why not a simple explanation of why I was wrong instead of a wall of text that looks a lot like an overreaction? And your trying to change the topic again twice:

And I'm curious about your self-voting webadict, you say your aims were to get two scum in the duel right? Then why vote for yourself, if you are not scum? Either this is some sort of scum tatic or he's some kind of jester, and I reckon he's the jester since he hasn't given out that many scumtells. Unlike jim, who doesn't answer questions directly but focus' on my newbiness, buddies with toonyman, avoids the question and tries to avert attention from himself and onto webadict.
Because he is a steaming scumbucket and he knows he's caught and he's trying hard to get out of the hole he's in.

Not to mention that you still haven't answered my question of how I was wrong. Feeling uneasy, scum?

[Zako]

More importantly, why aren't you challenging my claim of you changing the topic so to avoid my questions?

[Jim Groovester]

I was only referencing webadict so you would know where the term overreaction came from. And why not a simple explanation of why I was wrong instead of a wall of text that looks a lot like an overreaction? And your trying to change the topic again twice:

You needed a wall of text for how wrong you were.

I can change the topic of discussion as I please. It's called scumhunting. You obviously haven't gotten a grasp on it yet.

The game need not be rigidly defined by the arbitrary and useless choice of what you consider the topic of discussion.

Not to mention that you still haven't answered my question of how I was wrong. Feeling uneasy, scum?

I've answered everything you've accused me of. It's up to you to go look through my posts to find my answers, since I've lost patience dealing with you. The answers may not be to your satisfaction, but that is your problem, not mine. You're a n00b, and you wouldn't know a satisfactory answer if you saw one.

I'll pay you one last favor, and I've already been generous to you. Why are you wrong? I am not scum because I corrected you on somebody else's behalf. That is not a scumtell, and if you think that it was then you have a great deal to learn.

Enjoy your n00bness while it lasts. It will embarrass you later.

[Zako]

You needed a wall of text for how wrong you were.

A shitty excuse for a scummy answer. And shitty excuses are scumtell.

I can change the topic of discussion as I please. It's called scumhunting. You obviously haven't gotten a grasp on it yet.

The game need not be rigidly defined by the arbitrary and useless choice of what you consider the topic of discussion.

So you were scumhunting were you? Well, please show the poor misinformed n00b where you were scumhunting, so we can all see what you consider scumhunting, cause I don't see any. And that's a scumtell if I ever saw one. And you are not focusing on my point again; you are changing the topic in an attempt to hide your scumminess. Admit it. And I am not defining the game at all, you are just trying to hide your scuminess from my questions.

I've answered everything you've accused me of. It's up to you to go look through my posts to find my answers, since I've lost patience dealing with you. The answers may not be to your satisfaction, but that is your problem, not mine. You're a n00b, and you wouldn't know a satisfactory answer if you saw one.

You have given no satisfactory answer because you haven't got one! And that's because you are SCUM! And if that's not enough, you are just confirming my point AGAIN by pointing to my n00biness for an excuse, as you have done here:

That's not an overreaction. That's a pedantic explanation of why you were wrong, along with some guidelines for a n00b like you.

webadict claiming it was an overreaction is him grasping at straws to find dirt to throw at me.

Why are you taking cues from webadict and buddying up to him?

And here:

I wasn't going to justify my self-vote: There's no reason for it. The scenario I want to create is putting two scum in the duel.

Okay. Webadict, did you just say, you are scum?

This is like the best thing webadict's ever said.

Clearly, you underthink what you're saying and what you're doing.

Look who's underthinking things now!

I actually have proof, unlike you jim. My proof is that how can you be so sure that ToonyMan is not scum? A ordinary townie wouldn't know, they would be suspicious instead and leave ToonyMan to defend himself and then gauge his reaction to see if he's scum. The only way you would know if he's scum or not is if you are scumbuddies with him or are an investigative role of some kind. Either way, you will die quickly and odds are you are scum since an investigative role would be quiet this early in the game.

Unvote ToonyMan, Vote Jim Groovester. Do not blame my inexperience for your scummyness, scum.

When did I ever say ToonyMan was town? I didn't. Would you like to reevaluate your accusation?

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My newbie patience is wearing thin.

That previous one is at the end. He's repeating his excuses because he's run out of them, and repetitive excuses to scumhunting is a scumtell if he can't come up with new ones. Which he cannot. Jim Groovester is scum, end of story. Die scum!

[Jim Groovester]

Whatever.

If you're convinced I'm scum, get me lynched.

Let's see what you're made of, n00b.

[Cheeetar]

Unvote GeneralGuy, vote Jim Groovester. Webadict is fine with being in, having voted himself, and Jim just said that he's fine with being in.

[Zako]

If my previous arguements are not enough for you, then here is a new one for all you readers; saying that answering someone's questions is a waste of time is extremely scummy! You have been doing this for as long as you have posted! LOOK:

You being wrong about ToonyMan's participation in Wizard Duels is a non-issue. Likewise, me correcting you is also a non-issue.

My questions are a non-issue according to jim, therefore according to him, they are a waste of time.

Ah, crap.

EBWOP:

Go find where I said ToonyMan was town. Then we'll talk.

That's all I have to say to you.

Not bothering to talk with me here, since he thinks that it's unimportant.

I've answered everything you've accused me of. It's up to you to go look through my posts to find my answers, since I've lost patience dealing with you. The answers may not be to your satisfaction, but that is your problem, not mine. You're a n00b, and you wouldn't know a satisfactory answer if you saw one.

Losing paitence to answer me means that he can't be bothered to come up with decent answers.

This, combined with my other arguements, is definately proof that Jim is scum. Vote him out.