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superradish

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how do i stop making ridiculous items
« on: May 09, 2010, 07:21:36 pm »

i'm sick of making bone enhanced jewel encrusted crutches and splints, is there a way to tell my craftsdwarves to lay off putting the bling on medical crap?
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Re: how do i stop making ridiculous items
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2010, 07:24:57 pm »

Don't embark with it? Forbid it?
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Re: how do i stop making ridiculous items
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2010, 07:31:31 pm »

make a stockpile that only accepts what you want encrusted and one that accepts what you are usignt o encrust and put the workshop right between them.  set for lots of stuff to be encrusted.

the dwarf grabs whatever is closest to them when they start doing the job, putting everything near the workshop ensures that the stuff you want worked with is closest when your dwarf finishes the current job and starts the next.

if you are using 31.0x, you can set a burrow that contains only the stockpiles and materials and workshop and assign the dwarf to that workshop.
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Re: how do i stop making ridiculous items
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2010, 07:48:16 pm »

Note that when they start doing a job, they tend to grab whatever's closest to them at the time, so you might end up with a jewel-encrusted splint from time to time. Also note that dwarves still seem to not grasp Z-levels, so make sure your hospital isn't right below your jeweler.

Otherwise, stockpiles are the way to go.
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Re: how do i stop making ridiculous items
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2010, 10:54:57 pm »

if you are using 31.0x, you can set a burrow that contains only the stockpiles and materials and workshop and assign the dwarf to that workshop.

I really wish that worked. It didn't for my mason + stone stockpile.
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Re: how do i stop making ridiculous items
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2010, 11:25:01 pm »

I'd like to see items limited to a single decoration of each type, but it can wait until the caravan arc.
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Re: how do i stop making ridiculous items
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2010, 12:36:39 am »

I get some of the worst bling, like bin bling and barrel bling.

My flasks often get bling blinged big time, and 99% of the time my mayor forbids the export of flasks just as they can buy half a caravan.
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Re: how do i stop making ridiculous items
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2010, 12:38:17 am »

if you are using 31.0x, you can set a burrow that contains only the stockpiles and materials and workshop and assign the dwarf to that workshop.

I really wish that worked. It didn't for my mason + stone stockpile.

Lock the door once the goodies and the gems are inside. If you're feeling nice, you could give him some food, too.
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Re: how do i stop making ridiculous items
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2010, 04:07:02 am »

if you are using 31.0x, you can set a burrow that contains only the stockpiles and materials and workshop and assign the dwarf to that workshop.

I really wish that worked. It didn't for my mason + stone stockpile.

Lock the door once the goodies and the gems are inside. If you're feeling nice, you could give him some food, too.

I could do that anyway without a burrow.
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Re: how do i stop making ridiculous items
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2010, 04:14:22 am »

From my experience, I think dwarves actually grab what's the farthest from them. Or at least that's what stonecrafters I put on mined out floors tend to do. Maybe the behavior's different with stockpiles involved.
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Re: how do i stop making ridiculous items
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2010, 04:37:37 am »

From my experience, I think dwarves actually grab what's the farthest from them. Or at least that's what stonecrafters I put on mined out floors tend to do. Maybe the behavior's different with stockpiles involved.

It's definitely nearest (unless it changed in the new version), but nearest in a straight line: they only check coordinates, not the path to get there.

Also, they take the item nearest to them when they decide to do the job - not the item that is nearest to the workshop - which is why encrusted barrels are so common:

Jeweller is hungry -> Jeweller goes to get food -> Jeweller decides to go do some encrusting -> Jeweller grabs the barrel he was just eating from -> Bling!
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Re: how do i stop making ridiculous items
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2010, 09:48:53 am »

All workshops grab the closest thing as the mole tunnels.  Leave teh stuff you want encrusted near the workshop.  He will usually only encrust that stuff.  Sometime when he gets the job task and he is half way across the fort, he'll use that point as his frame of reference for grabbing teh closest thing.  Nothing you can do about that without lots of babysitting and micromanagement.
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Re: how do i stop making ridiculous items
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2010, 11:17:25 am »

Isn't this kind of thing precisely what burrows are for though?
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Re: how do i stop making ridiculous items
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2010, 12:19:46 pm »

I usually set up the jeweler with a jewelers shop, gem stockpile, and an 'entry' room located in a place where I can seal it all off from the rest of the fort.  Items get dumped through a hole in the ceiling into the entry room, jeweler gets sent in, doors get locked, and then the dwarf merrily wanders over to the platinum statues instead of grabbing a cedar barrel on his way down.
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