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[Virex]

Well, we can't decide what stone our mason's going to use, so why should the gem cutter be any different? Increases the tension when you order a low-level gem cutter to practice: "Will he take the diamond or not? I really need that diamond later. Let's just pray for a high level cutter in the next wave then..."

[Hyndis]

I like this idea.

Also, as I had mentioned in a previous suggestion, it would be nice if cutting a gem was separate from making gem crafts.

So if I want to cut 10 gems and decorate 10 items with those gems I can do that. Having a random quantity of usable gems resulting from the cut gem command means you cannot plan for it and set up production to take care of things for you.

With glass items you can. Queue up collect sand (R) and make green glass (R) and they will switch back and forth forever. You cannot do this with gems.

Cut gem (R) and encrust gem (R) will end very quickly because dwarves randomly make gem crafts, which means the task will need to be continually restarted.

So a few extra commands in the jewelcrafters workshop would be nice.


Cut any gem.
Encrust any gem.
Craft any gem.

Cut specific gem.
Encrust specific gem.
Craft specific gem.


This gives you much greater flexibility. Do you just want them to cut all of your gems as you mine then or make them in your glass workshops, and then encrust gems on everything without caring what gems are used for what (forbid gems to save them for something else)? Do you want to make crafts out of the gems, like ruby crowns or large rubies, instead of making cut rubies? You could even encrust crafted gems with more gems.

Cut any gem (R)
Craft any gem (R)
Cut any gem (R)
Encrust any gem (R)

This would repeat forever without interruption (assuming an unlimited supply of gems) and it will create gem crafts that are then encrusted with more gems, allowing plenty of work for your jewelcrafters and plenty of bling in your fortress.

[Hyndis]

Oh, this would be rather handy. I usually forbid my 'rarest' gem, and just cut/encrust everything else.

Same. If I find some rough diamonds I'm saving them by forbidding them. They only come out when a jewelcrafter goes into a fey mood. Sometimes you can get diamond furniture! Which is of course awesome.

All of the lesser gems are all cut right away.

[Safe-Keeper]

Surprised no one has mentioned this yet...

Auto-Cut. Auto-Encrust.

With additional options for quality and what to encrust. For example, "auto-cut gems and encrust furniture with gems of at least semi-precious quality").

Toggled just like Auto Tan and other automated workshop jobs.

Almost no-one wants to let their dwarves go loose with all the gems in their fort.

Interesting -- I've found that when people say that "no one would..." or "people want...", they're almost always just talking about themselves .

[Pilsu]

Auto-cutting and encrusting should really be persistent work orders, not menu items.

[Narmio]

Almost no-one wants to let their dwarves go loose with all the gems in their fort.

I often want to do exactly that.  So yeah, I like this idea.

I almost always want to do exactly that, So I agree.

I'm another card-carrying member of this "almost no-one" spoken of!

[hanni79]

I still can't believe that this is not already implemented. That would be equal to having to place a work order for every kind of soap, by specifying which tallow to use ... So please, someone make Toady recognize this. I can understand that people would want to encrust individually, but having to give orders for every single gem in the game to be cut is just ridiculous.

Therefore : Auto-Cut for the win !!!!

[Lord Shonus]

This thread is over two years old. Bumping it for the purpose of a very wordy "me too" is not desirable behavior here.

[Kipi]

This thread is over two years old. Bumping it for the purpose of a very wordy "me too" is not desirable behavior here.

And if hanni79 had made a new thread about this we would have been complaining "Use search function! Necroing topics is favored over new thread of the very same subject!" 

But yes, I totally support this idea. Currently my jewelers are spending most of their life idle since I'm usually too busy to check out if they have run out of the repeated orders.

Now, there is the problem of cutting stones, which was added by one of the later releases. Perhaps the order "Cut Any Gem" should use only the materials that have the tag [IS_GEM]? This way the jewelers won't accidentally run through the boulder reserves (especially ores, since those can be cut as well).

Also, the idea could be extended to encrust as well. After all, the same problem exists in it as well. This way managing the gem industry would become much more bearable and perhaps even useful.

Of course, this mechanism can be introduced already by modding. You can make a new reaction that requires any gem as reagent and produces a cut gem based on the material of reagent. You can also make the reaction automatic with [AUTOMATIC] token in the reaction. Unfortunately there are two drawbacks in this method: you can't use jeweler's workshop for the reaction and you can't get large gems from the reaction unless you add it as second product. If you do the chance of getting large gem is fixed, not based on the skill of the dwarf. Encrusting can't be automated in this way AFAIK.

[Putnam]

This is moddable, you know.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Well, we can't decide what stone our mason's going to use, so why should the gem cutter be any different? Increases the tension when you order a low-level gem cutter to practice: "Will he take the diamond or not? I really need that diamond later. Let's just pray for a high level cutter in the next wave then..."

Because gems are more valuable than stone? 95% of stone differs only in its magma-safety and color, most of the other 5% is mostly listed as economic stone. Besides, the way it is now may not always be the way it is...

[Silverionmox]

Well, we can't decide what stone our mason's going to use, so why should the gem cutter be any different? Increases the tension when you order a low-level gem cutter to practice: "Will he take the diamond or not? I really need that diamond later. Let's just pray for a high level cutter in the next wave then..."

We ought to be able to order a marble throne when we want one, dammit.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Well, we can't decide what stone our mason's going to use, so why should the gem cutter be any different? Increases the tension when you order a low-level gem cutter to practice: "Will he take the diamond or not? I really need that diamond later. Let's just pray for a high level cutter in the next wave then..."

We ought to be able to order a marble throne when we want one, dammit.

I'm 99% sure we will be be DF 1.0.01.

[crazysheep]

We ought to be able to order a marble throne when we want one, dammit.

Stockpile and stone settings allow you to make marble thrones when you want one

[GreatWyrmGold]

How obvious is that to noobs?