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Re: Beginner's Mafia X, Restart[DAY 2]
« Reply #165 on: May 19, 2010, 11:07:50 am »

So, Jokerman suspected cript, toaster, and spit for a bit. The kill might be random, or he might have been making someone nervous... He's a skilled player, that counts as well. I'm still not sure.

Knight, scum doesn't need to vote to kill. Town needs the kill, though, we can't sit back and relax.

For scum, it's way easier to stay in the back when town is just killing each other.
People like Knight, Diablous and Char13magne. Those are my main three suspects for now, as they haven't voted. Also: Blargity for lurking/bandwagon and Toaster because Joker had a hunch on him.

I'll get back on this, time to feed the kid...
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Re: Beginner's Mafia X, Restart[DAY 2]
« Reply #166 on: May 19, 2010, 03:01:05 pm »

Ok I reread through some of the stuff and remember know what some of my thoughts were, particularly in light of Jokerman getting it in the night.  Unfortunately I didn't have any suspicion of Jokerman, so that he was just an easy kill  for them that didn't really give any information.

First of all I'd like to ask for a mass role claim.

Then.. either way I'm going to unilaterally claim my own to bring to light a screw up I made on the first day.  I think I could have worked to save Spit from the lynch, as I personally had pretty good proof that he was town, seeing as I have the same role as him. (Marine Rookie.)  I think he played better than I did on the first day and I think I should have sacrificed myself to keep him playing, seeing as the only reason he was lynched was a bandwagon started as a result of his battle with Siquo.

Which gets me to my main suspicion of Siquo. Siquo, after you get a chance to read over things, what do you think the lynching and subsequent night killing tells us about the scum? I suspect one (but probably not both) of the voters of Spit, were scum.  Obviously it wasn't Joker, and the fact that you basically started the bandwagon that took spit down puts suspicion on you.

My other suspicion right now lies with Diabolous because of the last second "me too" vote that just repeated reasons that others gave.  Also, what do you think the lynching/night killing tells us about the scum?
What do I think? Well, during the day the scum is likely to try to find a scummy townie and try to get them lynched. If a scummy townie dies, it is likely that one of the voters. Wether it is a bandwagoner or the one the one who started it, depends on the player.
 
As for the night killing. The reason behind a night kill can vary. If a good player dies, it could be the scum decided to get rid of him before he becomes a threat. If there are other stronger players, the one who died could have been targeted because he struck strong, so they try to silence him quickly. They could also be trying to make it seem like he struck scum, so the town kills their own ally. Trying to frame someone basically.
 
Like last time, Jokerman did not strike me as one of the stronger players. I personally think Siquo to be one of the stronger ones. So I have to ask myself why he did not die. Maybe he's scum, or Joker struck scum and was percieved as the greater threat by the scum. Or possibly both.
 
With this new knowledge, my suspicions have changed. My suspicion of Siquo has grown, since he started a bandwagon that killed a townie. I am also wondering why he, who I thought would be more of a threat to the scum, lived yet Jokerman, who I thought would be less of a threat to the scum, was killed.
 
Toaster and Cript have also gone up, since Jokerman attacked them, so they would seem to want him dead. Cript has done this before, and that seems like him.
 
You've gone up a bit, but not as much as the others. Since the "frame a townie" reason for the night kill would make the most since from you. Admittedly, that's only because Toaster was suspicous of you. Anybody could decide to frame him.
 
because of the last second "me too" vote that just repeated reasons that others gave.

What? I did not use a last second vote. Jokerman did. I could not decide between you and Spitfire. I was actually starting to lean to you when Jokerman voted. But I decided not to tie things back up.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia X, Restart[DAY 2]
« Reply #167 on: May 19, 2010, 06:06:09 pm »

Knight, scum doesn't need to vote to kill. Town needs the kill, though, we can't sit back and relax.
I'll get back on this, time to feed the kid...

Didn't really say scum needed the vote to kill, I'm saying I believe they helped tip the balance towards spit over me. Just my thought, maybe they were indeed sitting back and watching the town self carnage itself, which works too.

Personally though I'm going with the "lets influence the death of the scummy townie"  and interestingly enough siquo, you're the one who set up the scummyness in the first place. You rode him just about the whole day and ended up with a lynch.

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What? I did not use a last second vote. Jokerman did. I could not decide between you and Spitfire. I was actually starting to lean to you when Jokerman voted. But I decided not to tie things back up.
Convenient excuse, you we're "doing the best for the town by making sure there was a lynch"  either that, or you were waiting to make sure you had the last vote you could make sure no-lynch wouldn't happen with two townies as the main suspects.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia X, Restart[DAY 2]
« Reply #168 on: May 19, 2010, 07:37:07 pm »

Replacement requested

Sorry, but some real life shit has popped up, and I won't be on B12 for a while. So I need to leave the game. Sorry.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia X, Restart[DAY 2][REPLACE NEED]
« Reply #169 on: May 19, 2010, 09:35:47 pm »

Blarg!  Why do you think Joker was killed last night?

Char!  Why did you never vote?  Who do you think gained the most from Joker's death?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia X, Restart[DAY 2]
« Reply #170 on: May 20, 2010, 03:30:41 am »

You rode him just about the whole day and ended up with a lynch.
I "rode" a lot of people. He just seemed the most scummy to me, in his responses.

Char13magne and Knight, what are your reasons for not voting yesterday?
Same question to the replacement of Diablous.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia X, Restart[DAY 2][REPLACE NEED]
« Reply #171 on: May 20, 2010, 04:19:19 am »

I don't know why Joker was killed, Toaster. My hypotheses are pretty much the same as Diablous', with the possible addition of batshit insanity/newbie panic.

Also, Siquo, why are you asking Diablous' replacement why Diablous didn't vote yesterday? He won't know.

I'm starting to wonder if I'm at all cut out for Mafia. I have no idea why such seemingly obvious questions are being asked as if there's going to be an answer of 'Yes, I am scum'. Perhaps I should go ask Leafsnail.

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Re: Beginner's Mafia X, Restart[DAY 2][REPLACE NEED]
« Reply #172 on: May 20, 2010, 06:18:28 am »

such seemingly obvious questions are being asked
Because I can't come up with anything better?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia X, Restart[DAY 2][REPLACE NEED]
« Reply #173 on: May 20, 2010, 07:13:26 am »

How badly needed is this replacement?

And why does this game keep restarting?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia X, Restart[DAY 2][REPLACE NEED]
« Reply #174 on: May 20, 2010, 10:04:00 am »

I don't know why Joker was killed, Toaster. My hypotheses are pretty much the same as Diablous', with the possible addition of batshit insanity/newbie panic.

Also, Siquo, why are you asking Diablous' replacement why Diablous didn't vote yesterday? He won't know.

I'm starting to wonder if I'm at all cut out for Mafia. I have no idea why such seemingly obvious questions are being asked as if there's going to be an answer of 'Yes, I am scum'. Perhaps I should go ask Leafsnail.

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It's your reaction to these questions that matter... scum can sometimes overreact to them, panic or get overannoyed at them.  Panicked scum is often easier to spot.

On the other hand, it could be down to laziness or not having a proper case.

How badly needed is this replacement?

And why does this game keep restarting?
That's what they need to find out in order to be released from this loop.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia X, Restart[DAY 2][REPLACE NEED]
« Reply #175 on: May 20, 2010, 11:05:31 am »

After pondering this one, I've gotten two lists.

Why did Jokerman die?  I believe now that he was picked as the strongest player, and therefore most likely to find scum.  To make that determination though, one of the scum would have to have enough experience with him to make that call.  The three people with that level are criptfeind, Siquo, and Diablous.  Alone, that's not scummy, but it's worth noting.  Also note that I would think even if I am right, this list would not necessarily contain both scum.

The second list is the people who voted spitfire, which is Blargityblarg, Siquo, and Jokerman.  Again, this is not scummy alone, as town can be wrong.  Obviously, Jokerman's clear from here.

Siquo, however, is on both lists.  Going over your old posts, I get a questionable feeling from you, possibly from scum putting up a good facade.  I'm not moving my vote yet, but I'm watching you.  Why did you focus yesterday on higher-activity players, then start today on low activity ones?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia X, Restart[DAY 2][REPLACE NEED]
« Reply #176 on: May 20, 2010, 01:31:40 pm »

Activity was no argument. I focus on who feels... "off".

Jokerman known to be experienced is easy: He is an IC in BM 11, and plays in several other mafia-games on this forum. Because he was killed, first thing I did was look at his posts to see who he was threatening, which I do through profile/view posts. It helps immensely with "meta".

And you know it as well (you've been reading up on older BM's and other mafia games), so your list is... inconclusive, as it should at the very least include you.


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Re: Beginner's Mafia X, Restart[DAY 2][REPLACE NEED]
« Reply #177 on: May 20, 2010, 07:00:50 pm »

I'll replace if one's still needed.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia X, Restart[DAY 2][REPLACE NEED]
« Reply #178 on: May 20, 2010, 07:10:51 pm »

Nolor replaces Diablous.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia X, Restart[DAY 2]
« Reply #179 on: May 20, 2010, 07:12:39 pm »

Votecount
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Criptfeind-Toaster
Siquo-Knight
Char13magne-Siquo

Day Ends, tomorrow, unless of Extension.
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