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[Toaster]

Nolor:
How has Knight's town flip changed your suspicions?  What do you make of the Blarg/Web argument yesterday?

Blarg:
You never commented on my accusation yesterday.  Since Char/Web has flipped town, it clearly wasn't a chainsaw defense you pulled, but my question remains- why the heavy change of tactics?  Have your original D2 suspicions of cript changed?

Siquo:
You were active at the start of D2, but you vanished at the end.  Why?  You voted Char for not voting, then didn't even so much as post after web replaced him- your vote never moved.  Again, why?  You posted a question to Blarg, but never followed up on his answer.  Did it satisfy you?

Criptfeind:

Spoiler: Post of yours (click to show/hide)

In any case, I'm going to start off pointing my finger at criptfeind.  Rereading the thread in light of what we know now, my scumdar started beeping.  I could be off, but I don't feel bad for voting on it.  Cript, what say you?  Why did Jokerman die?  Who do you think is the scum team?

I say I am busy so not much.

He most likely died for two reasons.

One: Paranoid scum
Two: As one of the lest newbies in this game he was a threat to them.

I think it is too early to look for a team but other than that I don't know because I need to reread the thread.

You promise more analysis here, but never deliver.  Why?  I was intending to keep my vote on you until it surfaced, but I forgot about it when I voted Knight.

I am here and reading everything.

I just have nothing to say.

You're correct on that one.  You pretty much said nothing day 2.  You weren't lurking- you were certainly active- but you didn't contribute.  Hell, you never even voted.  Why?  I want your detailed analysis of the game up to this point, and I won't let up this time until I hear it.

[Blargityblarg]

D:! That's not good. Sorry for the hard time, Webadict.

Yes, I still suspect Criptfeind. His lack of proper activity during yesterday didn't help my opinion of him, either.

Question: What exactly is a 'chainsaw defense'?

My change of tactics is more me getting into the swing of the game- I decided that to learn to play this game, I had to actually play it, so I did.

[Siquo]

I was away for the last weekend of D2, that's my absence, and wasn't able to change my vote until night fell. webadict is a very good player, so this kill was to be expected from scum.

It's been a loooong night... Re-reading stuff now.

[Siquo]

So:
Cript - Active, inactive. But, so was I, real life happens. Says he re-reads a lot, but hardly ever follows up on that. I know he can hunt, but is keeping strangely to the background, in the defensive corner. Very probably scum.
Toaster - Is contributing, which is good. Was very eager to lynch knight, ASAP. Probable scum.
Nolor - Starts off good, then disappears. Could be a real life, could be just laying back convenience. Probable scum.
Blarg - Was actually doing ok versus webadict, and answered me well. So he's either good scum, or town. Probably not scum.

I'm awaiting cripts response to the questions asked, now. I won't be rushed into voting.

Meanwhile, Nolor, why are you so absent? What are your thoughts on all of us? You and Toaster were both very eager to get knight out of the way. I must admit that he appeared scummy, but the day shortening and haste that was put forth by both of you was strange.

[Toaster]

Blarg:  If A accuses B, and C jumps to B's defense by attacking full force on A, then C is chainsaw defending B.  It's a scumtell on C if B shows up as scum.  Otherwise, it means little.

Meanwhile, Nolor, why are you so absent? What are your thoughts on all of us? You and Toaster were both very eager to get knight out of the way. I must admit that he appeared scummy, but the day shortening and haste that was put forth by both of you was strange.

Hold on- you're misrepresenting facts.  Neither Nolor nor I requested a shortening- all we did was not request an extend.  Only webadict asked for a shorten.  I thought Knight was scum since day 1.  I would have been willing to discuss it more, but no one else was talking about it, especially him.

[Nolor]

Meanwhile, Nolor, why are you so absent?

It hasn't been 24 hours yet; my absence during the end of Day 2 was due to its foregone conclusion. Knight was such obvscum. I have school now, but I'll answer everyone's questions in 6-7 hours.

[Toaster]

*crickets*

[Org]

Post moar or prod.

[Blargityblarg]

Blarg:  If A accuses B, and C jumps to B's defense by attacking full force on A, then C is chainsaw defending B.  It's a scumtell on C if B shows up as scum.  Otherwise, it means little.

Ah, right.

I have nothing to contribute; I'm waiting for Cript to respond to mine, Siquo's and Toaster's accusations and questions.

[Siquo]

Sooo.... we're all waiting for cript now.

Toast (and nolor), my apologies, you did indeed not request a shortening. Nolor, why were you so adamant on lynching Knight?

[Nolor]

Nolor:
How has Knight's town flip changed your suspicions?  What do you make of the Blarg/Web argument yesterday?

Toast (and nolor), my apologies, you did indeed not request a shortening. Nolor, why were you so adamant on lynching Knight?

Knight's town flip is amazing, or was amazing, however you look at it. Perhaps it's to be expected in a newbie game, but he was playing archetypal newbie scum. Requesting a role claim early and then OMGUSing me when I pointed this out. That's completely ridiculously anti-town. He flipped town, but his posts actively endangered us, so he's scum in my eyes.

As for the Blarg/web argument: Blarg attacked web because his predecessor was a lurker, right? Now, this is just a tip, but usually forcible replacements are town (scum can get away with lurking a lot more). I think Blarg was worried about web, so he attacked him. His attack crumbled before web's defense.

Also of note: Web flipped cop. Look at this quote:

The other scum is Blargityblargh or Siquo.

There's a high chance of one of these people being scum. Webadict is a great mafia player, so completely ignoring his last suspicions is kind of silly. Furthermore, we can assume that he investigated someone D1. We don't know who he is, but but it definitely wasn't Blarg or Siquo. If he knew anything definitive, he probably would've said something before the end of D2 — he had to know he would be nightkilled. Since he didn't, he probably took a gamble on there being a doctor.

He could've confirmed someone yesterday, but he didn't. Either to prevent over-reliance on the person who was confirmed or because he was hoping to stay alive another day, who knows?

What we do know:
- He didn't strike scum N1.
- Thus, the person he investigated N1 turned up town.
- This person was not himself, Blarg, Siquo, Knight, or Jokerman.

That leaves us with:
Nolor
Cripfeind
Toaster

One of these people, web (or rather, Charlemagne) investigated N1.
For whichever reason, webadict didn't confirm him yesterday.

Regardless, these are the people we should suspect least right now. These are the people web made no mention of, and thus suspected least... assuming my logic is proper. I might be missing something, though.

Currently, I'm suspecting Blargityblarg. I think he was testing the waters for a lynch on web D2, but his plan backfired. He didn't want to waste his NK on him, for whichever reason. Perhaps he had a better target in mind, someone who was more threatening? Was anyone attacking Blarg D2? I'd check myself, but I have school soon. I'll be back in 6-7 hours, though I might not post until the morning again.

[Toaster]

Nolor, I see two problems with that.  One, we can't be sure Char even did send in an action- he was that inactive.  Two, it could have been Jokerman he investigated- even though he died in the night, he would have been a valid target.  Web may have had no information at all.

[Criptfeind]

Okay guys, sorry I was gone, I was sick.

I will try to find these questions you are asking about.

[Criptfeind]

Okay so a look at this game?

It starts out with random voteing, okay... than blarg jumps on spit on the fourth post.
The accusations start to fly but are for the most part meaningless.

Five pages in I see that blarg is lurking, great. But he had a excuse.

I attack squgo some but than unvote as he starts to make sense.

Lurk moar blarg

Oh look we than kill spit. But what is this? Jokerman puts a last second vote on him for the hammer. And of the others voting him I see blargh.

... But than jokerman dies in the night. Fuck.

Web replaces in.

Now here comes the fun stuff, blarg attacks web quickly for things that char did and pushes really hard even though web cant defend himself.

And now we come to today.

Blarg is scum with most likely a partner of toaster.

Reasons:

1: He attacked web really hard for no reason.
2: He lurked day one but than popped up on day two
3: Web died after beating him down.

But these are not the only reasons, oh no. I am going to role claim. I am the Doctor night one I protected Siquo because I had no idea who to protect and night two I protected web because I knew he was going to be ether killed or he was scum. You may ask why he was killed? It was because I was role blocked last night. So obviously they they now know that I am the doc and will kill me tonight or even better get me lynched. So what do they do in there first posts? They attack me.

I have nothing to contribute; I'm waiting for Cript to respond to mine, Siquo's and Toaster's accusations and questions.

Quite honestly I cant find them, are you trying to muddy the water and get me lynched you scum?

[Criptfeind]

Quite honestly I cant find them, are you trying to muddy the water and get me lynched you scum?

Sept for your partner toasters, but I think that last post answered he question pretty well.