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Would you support adding waste/sewage, and management thereof, as part of Dwarf Fortress? Note that this is in support of most creatures regularly generating some sort of waste, which may have various uses, like fertilizer, or must merely be disposed of.

I support adding creature waste to the game
- 134 (46.9%)
I do NOT support adding creature waste to the game
- 86 (30.1%)
I would not mind, but do not care
- 37 (12.9%)
Other
- 3 (1%)
In the distant future, but not anytime soon. (You should vote yes instead of this, but it was called for.)
- 26 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 285


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Nikov

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Re: Would you support adding waste/sewage?
« Reply #90 on: June 02, 2010, 02:23:24 am »

And Here, Quoted Without Permission, Footkerchief's Toady Quotes Regarding Filth

Haha, I'd forgotten about that.  Glad it's getting some mileage.

I'm actually quite grateful for your efforts there. Your work in bringing the actual stance of Toady helps keep these discussions grounded in the same reality.
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Re: Would you support adding waste/sewage?
« Reply #91 on: June 02, 2010, 04:16:56 am »

The more fluids I can drown elves in the better.
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Re: Would you support adding waste/sewage?
« Reply #92 on: June 02, 2010, 04:42:06 am »

The more fluids I can drown elves in the better.

Keep your eye on the diamond, my good dwarf.
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Re: Would you support adding waste/sewage?
« Reply #93 on: June 02, 2010, 04:42:50 am »

I wonder if waste could be compacted and used as fuel, actually.
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Re: Would you support adding waste/sewage?
« Reply #94 on: June 02, 2010, 04:43:44 am »

Yes. It'll make the game harder and more realistic, and we need (or me, at least) the challenge.
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Re: Would you support adding waste/sewage?
« Reply #95 on: June 02, 2010, 06:54:16 pm »

I wonder if waste could be compacted and used as fuel, actually.

Not under the system I proposed, which would never have waste as a moveable, haulable object unless you just insisted on using buckets to empty your latrine. IRL waste is obviously a bad choice for fuel, since its only been used as such where no other sources exist, such as the Great Plains. Believe me, anything you can get for free that has an untapped economic use either isn't really free or isn't really useful.
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Re: Would you support adding waste/sewage?
« Reply #96 on: June 02, 2010, 10:54:17 pm »

I wonder if waste could be compacted and used as fuel, actually.
IRL waste is obviously a bad choice for fuel, since its only been used as such where no other sources exist, such as the Great Plains.

Well, it'd be useful on glacier maps.
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Re: Would you support adding waste/sewage?
« Reply #97 on: June 02, 2010, 11:33:21 pm »

once we need fuel for cooking, dried waste should be used as a minor fuel. i'm not sure about firing clay or something. also, i think chamber pots should get some love too. god, what is this obsession with latrines and sewers, are you guys some kind of fetishists?

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Re: Would you support adding waste/sewage?
« Reply #98 on: June 03, 2010, 04:54:34 am »

once we need fuel for cooking, dried waste should be used as a minor fuel. i'm not sure about firing clay or something. also, i think chamber pots should get some love too. god, what is this obsession with latrines and sewers, are you guys some kind of fetishists?
I hope not.
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Re: Would you support adding waste/sewage?
« Reply #99 on: June 03, 2010, 04:58:00 am »

No more a sewer fetishist than the entire RPG genre. There's always a sewer level. Its a TV Trope even.
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Re: Would you support adding waste/sewage?
« Reply #100 on: June 03, 2010, 05:04:42 am »

It doesn't help that we happily torture everything that lives.
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Re: Would you support adding waste/sewage?
« Reply #101 on: June 03, 2010, 05:11:33 am »

yeah, a bucket in a bedroom, even if it is a gold one in the royal chamber, isn't much of a plot device. still, i want to place buckets in my dwarves bedrooms.

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Re: Would you support adding waste/sewage?
« Reply #102 on: June 03, 2010, 05:17:43 am »

One of my earlier posts on the subject suggested buckets as chamber pots, although perhaps the chamber pot should be an entirely different thing. Otherwise your hospitalized dwarves are going to get really annoyed by being given water in a filth-smeared bucket.
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Re: Would you support adding waste/sewage?
« Reply #103 on: June 03, 2010, 12:39:11 pm »

i imagined it as a building, like a bed or a weapon stand, tough your dwarves would need to empty the chamberpots. this shouldn't necessarily mean they'd deconstruct the building, they'd take the bucket to empty it, but put it back on it's place afterwards

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Re: Would you support adding waste/sewage?
« Reply #104 on: June 03, 2010, 01:03:44 pm »

It'd require an overhaul of haulage first. Mostly because by idea of a sewage system is toilets filling buckets, which are then thrown into a shaft leading down to the magma sea. Or, failing that, just thrown into a hole which is sealed over and replaced elsewhere after it's filled.
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