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Author Topic: Swat team raids house and kills pets over a small amount of pot.  (Read 14422 times)

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Re: Swat team raids house and kills pets over a small amount of pot.
« Reply #210 on: May 26, 2010, 11:48:28 am »

Two of two SWAT "rant" threads I read posted on this here forum were about marijuana.
I don't get it - Marijuana may be the most common drug but is definitely one of the softer, if not the softest drug of all.

Netherlands, where marijuana is legal, has got less cases of marijuana addiction/1000 people than most European countries where it isn't.
Not mentioning legal marijuana is taxable.
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« Reply #211 on: May 26, 2010, 11:51:47 am »

No I mean the real reason for the "war on drugs". It sounded like you had other ideas about why they are doing it, other than to actually crack down on drugs. I misread?

Two of two SWAT "rant" threads I read posted on this here forum were about marijuana.
I don't get it - Marijuana may be the most common drug but is definitely one of the softer, if not the softest drug of all.

Netherlands, where marijuana is legal, has got less cases of marijuana addiction/1000 people than most European countries where it isn't.
Not mentioning legal marijuana is taxable.
It's probably also pretty cheap compared to here. I watched a documentary that said something like $2000 an ounce. Does anybody have ... uh ... a friend who has personal experience with cost?

It seems like if it were legal to produce, then it wouldn't be any more expensive than tobacco except that the taxes may be different. But certainly, its actual production and delivery cost has got to be about the same as wheat flour if it were legal.

Around here, cigarettes are about $6 a pack. Of 20? I don't smoke, so I don't remember.
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Re: Swat team raids house and kills pets over a small amount of pot.
« Reply #212 on: May 26, 2010, 11:54:04 am »

The idea is that marijuana is a gateway drug. Harmless enough of itself, but it gets you connected to people who could supply harmful drugs like super meth.
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Re: Swat team raids house and kills pets over a small amount of pot.
« Reply #213 on: May 26, 2010, 11:56:03 am »

Holy shit what?

2000$ an ounce?

I guess the costs are due to the relatively high risks involved being a dealer, runner, etc.
Over here, a J is dirt cheap (2 grams are 4.30$, with current currency rates) and illegal as well.
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Re: Swat team raids house and kills pets over a small amount of pot.
« Reply #214 on: May 26, 2010, 11:57:41 am »

The 'War on Drugs' is somewhat of a publicity stunt. If the government really wanted to crack down on certain drugs, they'd be gone by now.

I'm completely positive that no government in the world could make any drug "gone" no matter how hard they tried.

Holy shit what?

2000$ an ounce?

I guess the costs are due to the relatively high risks involved being a dealer, runner, etc.
Over here, a J is dirt cheap (2 grams are 4.30$, with current currency rates) and illegal as well.

I know that here in the UK, when they grip someone with pot (or any drug really) they divide it up as small as they can so it works out as being worth more on paper.
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« Reply #215 on: May 26, 2010, 12:01:39 pm »

The idea is that marijuana is a gateway drug. Harmless enough of itself, but it gets you connected to people who could supply harmful drugs like super meth.

So... then you replace those connections with... registered dealers?  amirite?
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« Reply #216 on: May 26, 2010, 12:02:06 pm »

I think it's like $25 for a quarter (of an ounce), so I'd guess it's $100 an ounce? I don't know, I'd rather have a career and a good job than play with it anymore.

Now heroin addicts must be some clever entrepreneurs. How in the world do they come up with the money to feed that addiction?
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Re: Swat team raids house and kills pets over a small amount of pot.
« Reply #217 on: May 26, 2010, 12:05:47 pm »

From what I've heard, they steal a lot. Prostitution. That kind of thing.

Also, you can get by on meager government assistance, and pooling your resources with other druggies (and by this I mean everyone mooches off of whoever has anything like a place to sleep or food or drugs or whatever).

Again, I'm not really in that culture so I'm sure others have fuller insights.
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« Reply #218 on: May 26, 2010, 12:13:33 pm »

Also, you can get by on meager government assistance, and pooling your resources with other druggies (and by this I mean everyone mooches off of whoever has anything like a place to sleep or food or drugs or whatever).

Ya know, people who can work the system can live relatively well on just that.  Considering most have a parent's basement to live in or something...
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Re: Swat team raids house and kills pets over a small amount of pot.
« Reply #219 on: May 26, 2010, 12:40:12 pm »

Yeah that's what I mean, you see people living together, couch surfing, etc.

In my state, you can get very basic medical care if you're signed up for the program and you pay something like a $15 fee when you see the doctor. That's only for the very poor though. I think there may be a monthly charge too, I don't remember.

You get food stamps, which is actually a card loaded with a certain amount of money. The merchant will only sell you things on an approved list, but that list includes just about any unprepared food (so you can buy an uncooked "bring it home and cook it yourself" pizza, or a bottle of soda, but you can't buy a cooked pizza). It's something like $120 a month they give you for that. You might have to use it every month, I dunno. Also, to determine whether you qualify for food stamps, they count the total income of everyone you live with. So if you live with a bunch of people who are on food stamps, each has a work income of zero (they may be paid "under the table" to avoid taxes though), then everyone can get food stamps.

Now, you get six people living in a flophouse kind of arrangement (Geek Commune? :P ) that's about $700 a month which is quite enough to feed everyone with food that someone has to cook. Of course, instead, people end up buying some junk food too so they're sort of malnourished. But it's not like you're hungry all the time if you're a meth user.

There are also programs you can get on for housing subsidies, but mostly only if you're a single woman or a family with kids. A single mother with three kids, last I heard, gets $800 a month in housing subsidy. But around here, a bad three-bedroom living space can cost more than that, so it doesn't cover everything.

You can also get a utility (electric, water, etc) subsidy, but it's only for a couple months at a time or something. I don't remember what was up with that.
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Re: Swat team raids house and kills pets over a small amount of pot.
« Reply #220 on: May 26, 2010, 01:41:16 pm »

*get's out notebook*

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Re: Swat team raids house and kills pets over a small amount of pot.
« Reply #221 on: May 26, 2010, 02:03:36 pm »

Well I know a guy who lives off the state like that. Life sucks, but he's fed and he's not homeless. That's basically it. He does have a minor mental disability so he probably gets more aid than a regular person. He's not lazy, he's just content. Pretty sad actually.
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« Reply #222 on: May 26, 2010, 02:21:28 pm »

I made ends meet rooming with someone at a studio apartment. We both worked fast food, but there certainly wasn't much left over for fun
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« Reply #223 on: May 26, 2010, 03:24:34 pm »

Why is it sad that someone doesn't need much in the way of material things to be happy?
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Re: Swat team raids house and kills pets over a small amount of pot.
« Reply #224 on: May 26, 2010, 03:37:38 pm »

I think it is sad if you're perfectly content with the government paying your whole life.
Such people should not be sent to prison, that would cost even more. Probably, you should just drop them off somewhere in the forest.

(This is for healthy, sane people only, obviously, who are just too damn lazy)
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