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Author Topic: Gentlemanne of Natural Philosophie!  (Read 47144 times)

Samthere

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Re: Gentlemanne of Natural Philosophie!
« Reply #405 on: May 17, 2010, 10:25:42 am »

The idea of phlogiston is that the burnt remains of a substance are simply its natural form without phlogiston.
However, we could try to replace the phlogiston with something that keeps the properties of the material the same apart from its flammability.

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Re: Gentlemanne of Natural Philosophie!
« Reply #406 on: May 17, 2010, 10:33:14 am »

Lets mix phlogiston and oxygen.
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Samthere

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Re: Gentlemanne of Natural Philosophie!
« Reply #407 on: May 17, 2010, 10:34:43 am »

To what purpose? I don't think we're aware of oxygen's role in combustion, as that theory's at odds with phlogiston theory.

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Re: Gentlemanne of Natural Philosophie!
« Reply #408 on: May 17, 2010, 11:01:57 am »

thats exactly why we shuld do it.
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Re: Gentlemanne of Natural Philosophie!
« Reply #409 on: May 17, 2010, 11:18:15 am »

I want to see if it works like anti-matter and matter.
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Re: Gentlemanne of Natural Philosophie!
« Reply #410 on: May 17, 2010, 11:19:38 am »

Lolwut. :D

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Re: Gentlemanne of Natural Philosophie!
« Reply #411 on: May 17, 2010, 12:00:44 pm »

It prooobably wont, don't worry.
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Re: Gentlemanne of Natural Philosophie!
« Reply #412 on: May 17, 2010, 02:51:16 pm »

I guess we fiddle around with mixing some phlogiston with coal, and see if that makes a better fuel.
Coal is almost all Phlogiston already, but you mix the two anyway. Or at least try to. The Phlogiston refuses to bond; perhaps with more advanced equipment you could do it? Or the coal is already fully phlogisticated.

>Design a machine/spell to produce more phlogiston.
A machine might be difficult. The procedure you used is complex, and you would require greater knowledge of Alchemistry to be able to design static glasswork to do it.
A spell would probably be even more trouble; your Alchemistry book assumes the user is using traditional Science, and gives no advice as to how to use Etheric means to perform Alchemy.

We have alot of phlogiston experiments to do. Proper SCIENCE!
Test One: Mix a little of the the phlogiston with the following:
-Water
-Frog
-Frog Ashes (use different frog)
-Human Hair Ashes
-Mixed Frog and Human Hair Ashes

Test Two: Combustion testing. Test the following, as produced in Test One:
-Phlogisticated water
-Highly Flammable Frog
-Various Mixtures of Phlogisticated Frog and Human Ash.
You attempt to burn Phlogisticated Water. No luck; water contains too much, well, water, which is A)Liquid and B)Not flammable. Water becomes fully phlogisticated before it becomes flammable.
You catch several frogs from a nearby pond, and try to phlogisticate it. The frog dies, but it does become phlogisticated. Unfortunately, that took all of your remaining Phlogiston.
The next day you make some more Phlogiston (several tries again), and try to burn the frog. It burns quite well; better than an unphlogisticated frog.
Human hair, as you well know, is flammable as is; but it can be phlogisticated. Frog ashes phlogisticate best of all, as they are, naturally, mostly made up of calces.
The two both burn well, better than unphlogisticated samples. However, the mixture is not frogman ash. You might be on the right track, but there is much work between here and it. Probably easier just to burn Frogmen. If they exist.

Okay, so we should see if we can't get any treatises on magical creatures.
Hmm.
Well, you could. But it would require travel; such books would reside in a Library, not in the hands of some common printing shop. And someone you know might see you, and report your activities to the Institute. Of course, if you travelled far enough, you could leave the influence of the Institute, but such a trip would be costly and take a long time; to go upon it to get one book would be a waste.



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Re: Gentlemanne of Natural Philosophie!
« Reply #413 on: May 17, 2010, 02:59:52 pm »

Read through books on SCIENCE! and see if any experiments come to mind purely for the purpose of getting a better understanding of SCIENCE!
I.e. practise, raise our SCIENCE! skills.

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Re: Gentlemanne of Natural Philosophie!
« Reply #414 on: May 17, 2010, 03:08:17 pm »

Research warding spells to protect our house or something? If this is too much like magic shields and invoke our RAEG then research how magic shields work before researching any specefic magic shields and/or warding spells.
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Re: Gentlemanne of Natural Philosophie!
« Reply #415 on: May 17, 2010, 03:16:31 pm »

Read through books on SCIENCE! and see if any experiments come to mind purely for the purpose of getting a better understanding of SCIENCE!
I.e. practise, raise our SCIENCE! skills.

Or, in meta-game terms: grind for XP!

I think we should look for a source of income, so we can upgrade our scientific instruments...

Do we have any like-minded acquaintances (of scientific background) whom we can trust, and who might have knowledge or literature on the topic of frogmen?
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Re: Gentlemanne of Natural Philosophie!
« Reply #416 on: May 17, 2010, 03:40:36 pm »

Look up spells for fusing creatures.
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Re: Gentlemanne of Natural Philosophie!
« Reply #417 on: May 17, 2010, 05:37:14 pm »

Attempt to create a variation on the Spontaneously Combusting Goop which burns at a controlled rate as chemical A is mixed into chemical B. Wonder to yourself if it is possible to create these two chemicals in large batches.
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« Reply #418 on: May 18, 2010, 02:11:39 am »

What we should endeavour to accomplish is find means of transportation for the acquisition of literature that might further the knowledge of madmen and genius inventors everywhere. The collected minds of the world knows that between magicians and scientists, a book is what binds them together. A book makes the unreal appear possible, and the possible seem magical. To this end, this part of our conscience must voice its complete and utter disgust at the idea that a trip could be too expensive to procure a book, or furthermore, that only well-known establishments would carry such books.

Indeed, no book is too costly. No establishment, too unknown.

Certainly not to carry the type of printed words that we are seeking.

In other words, lets develop a steam-powered printing press. With it, we can produce a large library, claiming to have purchased said books and thereby attracting like-minded bookworms to our cause. Eventually, as we gain their trust, we could introduce them to our brilliant invention and exchange the printing of books in exchange for a copy of said book.

(In summary, I'm insane and the entire point is to transport the bookstore to us. We will be the unknown establishment with every ounce of knowledge worth its salt on the earth).
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Re: Gentlemanne of Natural Philosophie!
« Reply #419 on: May 19, 2010, 07:25:01 pm »

Do what he said.
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