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[slothen]

Whats the difference between weapon traps with menacing spikes and spike traps?  I know spikes can friendly fire, and they also only do damage if activated by pressure plate or lever while an enemy is on top of them.  Given that, do they have any real advantages?  I believe I've heard of people making great fields of them connected to a lever on repeat, but even then, how is this better than regular weapon traps?

[Foxbyte]

Create a long hallway full of spikes with a lever at the end. Get people with pets you don't like to pull the lever.

[slothen]

so basically friendly fire.  fair enough, i was kind of hoping the spike trap gets some advantage against huge sieges or megabeasts or something.  Do they jam like regular traps?  also i've read a spike trap will hit any and everything thats on top of it when it goes, ie can spear like 20 goblins at once.  to weapon traps also do this or do they have a limit of number of attacks per 'step?'

[Boingboingsplat]

I was under the impression that upright spikes ignore [TRAPAVOID] but I'm really not sure at all.

[Dave Mongoose]

Yea, spike traps never jam like weapon traps can, and

upright spikes ignore [TRAPAVOID]

so you can hit anything with them (although that's no guarantee that you'll do any damage).

They are piercing weapons and so they can do nasty damage to enemies with organs, but aren't much good against some of the megabeasts.

[Marconius]

Spike traps can also be constantly active, so you can make pits with spiked bottoms using them!

[moki]

No, you can't. They only do damage when the lever is pulled. You'd need to have a repeater constantly activating and deactivating them for that to work.

The most common use is indeed a trap corridor, that works on [trapavoid] creatures. And of course, creative engineering of cruel "accidents".

[darkflagrance]

No, you can't. They only do damage when the lever is pulled. You'd need to have a repeater constantly activating and deactivating them for that to work.

The most common use is indeed a trap corridor, that works on [trapavoid] creatures. And of course, creative engineering of cruel "accidents".

For example, 40d orcs were normally [trapavoid] and very destructive to fortresses, so a common fix was the upright-spike lined corridor.

[o_O[WTFace]]

Trapavoid creatures mostly.  Nothing gets by the spikes, unless you put the lever someplace other then the dining room.  Also handy if you don't feel like dealing with that elf caravan or immigrant wave.

[Marconius]

No, you can't. They only do damage when the lever is pulled. You'd need to have a repeater constantly activating and deactivating them for that to work.

The most common use is indeed a trap corridor, that works on [trapavoid] creatures. And of course, creative engineering of cruel "accidents".

I recall reading that if creatures fall on active spikes from above (ie., into a pit full of spikes), they'll take damage... haven't tried though, to be honest.

[Untelligent]

I recall reading that if creatures fall on active spikes from above (ie., into a pit full of spikes), they'll take damage... haven't tried though, to be honest.

And I recall reading that they don't. Other than the normal falling damage, of course.

[Hyndis]

They don't.

But they can take falling damage and then get stabbed with the spike traps.

Its two separate things, but generally a good 20 level drop is enough to finish off anything, so spikes really aren't needed.

[Corona688]

For example, 40d orcs were normally [trapavoid] and very destructive to fortresses, so a common fix was the upright-spike lined corridor.

What orcs?

[Skorpion]

For example, 40d orcs were normally [trapavoid] and very destructive to fortresses, so a common fix was the upright-spike lined corridor.

What orcs?

The orcs from the orc mod, of course! Stronger, tougher goblins that siege earlier and carry steel equipment and come with more dudes. And trapavoid.

As for the spiked-pit thing, spikes do no damage until specifically extended. If you set up a repeater for them, you essentially get a spiked pit.

EDIT:
Also, they don't jam, they don't need to be reloaded, and they harm anything.
Good for nobles and pets.

[slothen]

i just realized the topic title is a pun