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[Thiickshake]

So as the title says has any one actually withstood hell.

also i dont mean breached hell then walled it back up i mean 100 legendary axe dwarfs slaughtering hells minions kinda stuff?

[DarthCloakedDwarf]

The demons are infinite.

Your dwarves are not.

Nor is your computing capacity.

[Max White]

With the absents of immortal demons, a decent military can withstand the initial hoard and set an outpost base in hell to slow the intruders, but in the end, they will ALWAYS win.

[wallie79r]

I think the closest you can come to winning is to claim your own little chunk of Hell. Breach it, kill the initial horde, floor over all the glowing pits, and construct a massive barricade to prevent more clowns from entering from offscreen. Alternately, flood the whole thing with lava. It probably wouldn't kill many any, but it would certainly allow you to claim victory in the name of Armok and run screaming into the sunset. Which is also on fire.

[riznar]

I'm now imagining a succession game with the goal of conquering all of hell one 4x4 embark at a time.

[Max White]

I'm now imagining a succession game with the goal of conquering all of hell one 4x4 embark at a time.

I'm now imagining win.

[DarthCloakedDwarf]

I'm now imagining win.

I'm now imagining a completely despoiled Coruscant-world full of dwarfs.

...dude.

Once we're allowed to leave a fortress to its own mechinations...

[Bishop36]

I like the new changes very much. Toady seems to completely understand what "Oh shit, we just dug into hell!" should entail.

[riznar]

Quick calculation:

It would take 4624 forts to conquer an entire pocket region

[Max White]

Quick calculation:

It would take 4624 forts to conquer an entire pocket region

I assume there is no ocean to speak of.

[riznar]

Well you'd have to either reduce the oceans in the raws or reduce that number by the number of ocean spaces

[wallie79r]

Right, so now I'm thinking about how to flood Hell with magma. The obvious problem is that glowing pits function as bottomless holes, so its necessary to either floor over every single bottomless pit in existence or pump magma in with such force and pressure that it flows in faster than it can be drained. Therefore, I recommend the following.

Create fortresses covering every single tile of the world map. Each of these fortresses will have a mega project consisting of a lava reservoir covering at least ten z levels, preferably more, and shall be receiving constant input from the magma sea. Additionally, each of these fortresses shall engage in a military campaign designed to temporarily pacify Hell while the glowing pits can be floored over by our intrepid dwarven masons. Once the flooring is completed, Hell shall be resealed via constructed floors to prevent Hell from being prematurely unleashed. Finally, Each fortress shall have a lever which is easily accessible from the surface which, when pulled, has the effect of opening Hell via cave ins and simultaneously draining the reservoir into Hell. Once each and every tile of the world map is covered in said fortresses, a brave adventurer shall journey across the globe, pulling each and every one of the great Levers of Infernal Retaliation^tm. Once his epic task is completed, he will retire a heavily fortified clear glass pyramid so that he may contemplate the glory of the burning world.

[Retro]

I like the new changes very much. Toady seems to completely understand what "Oh shit, we just dug into hell!" should entail.

On the other hand, as wickedly awesome as it is, it remains impossible to win as demons will continue to spawn even if you do wall the entire thing off; even if you don't lose, your fort's over due to FPS. The only real way to win Hell is to wall off every single square of Hell, which I believe is impossible to do as you'd have to leave somewhere to stand. Breaching Hell = the end. Fortunately for me I never bothered with adamantine anyways, so I can just remove Hell from my worldgen settings.

[Max White]

Wow, over kill much?
I LIKE IT!

[Max White]

I like the new changes very much. Toady seems to completely understand what "Oh shit, we just dug into hell!" should entail.

On the other hand, as wickedly awesome as it is, it remains impossible to win as demons will continue to spawn even if you do wall the entire thing off; even if you don't lose, your fort's over due to FPS. The only real way to win Hell is to wall off every single square of Hell, which I believe is impossible to do as you'd have to leave somewhere to stand. Breaching Hell = the end. Fortunately for me I never bothered with adamantine anyways, so I can just remove Hell from my worldgen settings.

Toady seems to completely understand what "Oh shit, we just dug into hell!" should entail.