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[smigenboger]

The existentialists will hold you reliable for an outcome, and not intention, whereas a christian-based religion will hold you accountable for intention, and not the outcome.

In the case of the study, extreme emotional morality will lead to misinterpretation, and extreme logic will lead to logical fallacies. For humans, we do not have enough information to rely on one extreme

[TheDarkJay]

Intention and Outcome are both factors, in that if your intent is to cause suffering and you fail, odds are you are going to try again so should be incarcerated (or alternative) to prevent this. Otherwise, outcome is what really matters.

That strikes me as the more rational approach...

Of course, this talk is pointless. Morality doesn't really exist as anything more than a social contract for mutual self-preservation...

[Virex]

The existentialists will hold you reliable for an outcome, and not intention, whereas a christian-based religion will hold you accountable for intention, and not the outcome.

You're forgetting Kantian logic: "If everyone would do it and the outcome is undesirable, then nobody should do it"

[G-Flex]

Both outcome and intent are important if you want to actually figure out why something happened and either discourage/encourage it from happening again.

[smigenboger]

Kantian logic

Of course, being human, everyone would end up practising 'Let's do and say we didn't'

More on Kantian logic?

[Kebooo]

Survival instinct and emotion aren't directly related

Yes, we distinguish between the two concepts, but I'm just trying to argue they are derived from the same notion, desire.  Whether you feel the desire or not.  I have a desire to stay alive.

[Virex]

Kantian logic

Of course, being human, everyone would end up practising 'Let's do and say we didn't'

More on Kantian logic?

Wouldn't that be immoral according to Kant?

[ChairmanPoo]

Im fine with killing people, mass-murder and wars. I dont understand how "social animals" like humans work. My mothership will be back to analyze my findings in about a week, so somebody better help me out here.

Win

[Soadreqm]

Im fine with killing people, mass-murder and wars. I dont understand why some people view it as a bad thing.

I haven't studied Human Psychology since my days at Human High School, but I would guess empathy. You see, some humans are naturally capable of seeing how other humans feel, and sometimes react to these feeling as if they were their own. This ability to commune with other humans lets humans "cooperate", much like ants. Indeed, just like ants, humans are capable of building large and durable structures and hunting animals much bigger than themselves.

[bjlong]

Im fine with killing people, mass-murder and wars. I dont understand why some people view it as a bad thing.

I haven't studied Human Psychology since my days at Human High School, but I would guess empathy. You see, some humans are naturally capable of seeing how other humans feel, and sometimes react to these feeling as if they were their own. This ability to commune with other humans lets humans "cooperate", much like ants. Indeed, just like ants, humans are capable of building large and durable structures and hunting animals much bigger than themselves.

Ah! This is why they seem so much like ants, despite a frivolous bi-gender society. Perhaps you could further explain their reluctance to uphold monarchies, the need to mate repeatedly, and the formation of so-called "boy bands".

[smigenboger]

These 'boy bands' that you speak of are key components of the power held by the 'overlords'. These groups have been brainwashed to believe they are special, and that people love them. These subsequent people are than conditioned through propaganda and repeated positive exposure to associate their sexual urges and desires for fame through them. With the common folk under control, the overlords can extract their precious 'money' from them, which they use to further ensnare the common folk. Given enough time, the common folk will soon forget their own individualization and have other aspects of their lives suffer a similar fate.

[bjlong]

These 'boy bands' that you speak of are key components of the power held by the 'overlords'. These groups have been brainwashed to believe they are special, and that people love them. These subsequent people are than conditioned through propaganda and repeated positive exposure to associate their sexual urges and desires for fame through them. With the common folk under control, the overlords can extract their precious 'money' from them, which they use to further ensnare the common folk. Given enough time, the common folk will soon forget their own individualization and have other aspects of their lives suffer a similar fate.

So human society is progressing... how intriguing.

[Zangi]

Reminds me of the Vulcans.

No emotion, all logic.

[smigenboger]

The dopamine constantly circulating through our veins gives us pleasant tingling sensations without the requirement of an emotional trigger. Without emotions in the way, we are free to continue our search of collective knowledge to further improve the accuracy of our logic

[Earthquake Damage]

Reminds me of the Vulcans.

No emotion, all logic.

If you mean the study reminds you of Vulcans, then you should read it again.  This has nothing to do with emotionless logic.  It has everything to do with a failure to connect intent with (potential;  no, make that probable) action.