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[Siquo]

Love the blood on the hands while holding the map. Genius is in the details.

[Samthere]

Crocodilidocious.

[Bardum Idith]

3. Eat the tree-slayers and sell their stuff!

[Samthere]

How about 2, then 3? The humans will respect our wishes/worship us that much more if we ride in atop gigantic crocodiles.

[Acanthus117]

I so want three, but only because I wanna see how HUMENS look like.

[Neyvn]

I so want three, but only because I wanna see how HUMENS look like.

Oh... Great work. Now you have peaked my interest...

[Samthere]

Hmm, fair point, but if we start beef with humens then we're sure to have to face the SAVER OF HUMENS.
Which is bad news for us.

[Neruz]

I so want three, but only because I wanna see how HUMENS look like.

Manmans.

[Acanthus117]

Hmm, fair point, but if we start beef with humens then we're sure to have to face the SAVER OF HUMENS.
Which is bad news for us.

Nah, one cage trap and John Freemen will be ours!

[Flaede]

I'm still for the Human route. I see Haspen's angle. Really, I do. But I got to thinking: do you think they really care what's above  ground? Unless we visit them by coming up to their fortress from the underdark, our route is not likely to impress them much.

Also, like I've said before:
We're Elves! We should be caring more about the lack of a Tree Rights Movement in the human lands, not whether we can enslave and sell alligators to the Bearded Menace. Power to the Poplar! *ahem*

Spoiler: My overthought plan for a skinnamarinkey-rampage-though-human-lands (click to show/hide)

We're tying to unite the world, here. We need to go there eventually, so why not case the joint now? As Elves, we should waltz into the human lands with our elephant friends singing the Skinnamarink song¹, pied-piper away all the drunks² and Rangers³, then use the tamed Humies as bargaining chips with the human armies⁴ and meatshields respectively, then sell any left to the dwarves ⁵.  All the while, tearing up all the wooden bridges (behind us, of course), and liberating the poor tree corpses so their spirits may find peace (as our trade goods). Maybe we could also "liberate" some of their livestock?

1 It's the Elephant Show!
2 Hey, emergency rations! Pre-marinated!
3 I'd also say children, but we're not Goblins here. They're the other immortal pains in the butt.
4 Or the Goblins if we run into any. Which almost sold me on pied pipering away the children. (they're happy to be free!)
5 Or use as a convenient distraction when the Dwarves turn on us?

I also think, however, that this is far too "pat" a plan. What eventually does come about will be far more hilarious than this plan. No matter which route we take.  Our talented host DarkerDark's imagination is absolutely wild! I just secretly think the human lands have the best options for wacky antics. And I likes me some wacky antics.

[Acanthus117]

I'm still for the Human route. I see Haspen's angle. Really, I do. But I got to thinking: do you think they really care what's above  ground? Unless we visit them by coming up to their fortress from the underdark, our route is not likely to impress them much.

Also, like I've said before:
We're Elves! We should be caring more about the lack of a Tree Rights Movement in the human lands, not whether we can enslave and sell alligators to the Bearded Menace. Power to the Poplar! *ahem*

Spoiler: My overthought plan for a skinnamarinkey-rampage-though-human-lands (click to show/hide)

We're tying to unite the world, here. We need to go there eventually, so why not case the joint now? As Elves, we should waltz into the human lands with our elephant friends singing the Skinnamarink song¹, pied-piper away all the drunks² and Rangers³, then use the tamed Humies as bargaining chips with the human armies⁴ and meatshields respectively, then sell any left to the dwarves ⁵.  All the while, tearing up all the wooden bridges (behind us, of course), and liberating the poor tree corpses so their spirits may find peace (as our trade goods). Maybe we could also "liberate" some of their livestock?

1 It's the Elephant Show!
2 Hey, emergency rations! Pre-marinated!
3 I'd also say children, but we're not Goblins here. They're the other immortal pains in the butt.
4 Or the Goblins if we run into any. Which almost sold me on pied pipering away the children. (they're happy to be free!)
5 Or use as a convenient distraction when the Dwarves turn on us?

I also think, however, that this is far too "pat" a plan. What eventually does come about will be far more hilarious than this plan. No matter which route we take.  Our talented host DarkerDark's imagination is absolutely wild! I just secretly think the human lands have the best options for wacky antics. And I likes me some wacky antics.

THISSSS

[Flaede]

Hmm, fair point, but if we start beef with humens then we're sure to have to face the SAVER OF HUMENS.
Which is bad news for us.

Nah, one cage trap and John Freemen will be ours!

I think, as Elves, we would actually like to know the SAVOUR OF HUMENS, rather than that of their beef.

[Karnewarrior]

I think we should go into the human lands, actually.
If we find a WOODEN bridge, we should disassemble it behind us, bless the wood, and take it with us. All those poor trees the humans slaughter, we must see what we can do to help them find rest.

this. More wood means more cages.

[Nirur Torir]

Route 2.

This is a mission of peace. If we had brought an expert diplomat, the human lands would be a better option. As it is, we shouldn't go through human lands with ... Er, I mean, we shouldn't tear up their immoral bridges. We'd start a war. Plus, tamed alligators are more impressive then tamed drunks.

[cganya]

i vote for route 2. starting shit in the human lands will quickly see us far out numbered and on the run. i say we make use of our two main advantages (ability to influence animals and having a master ranger) and head for the swamps.