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VerdantSF

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Suddenly I can't trade crafts?
« on: April 25, 2010, 12:54:30 pm »

So I've been making most of my money with a combination of rock crafts and prepared meals.  Then all of a sudden "crafts" stopped appearing in the trade window.  I have TONS of rock crafts sitting in the stockpiles.  I haven't had any trouble before.  Not only is the option to select crafts gone, but the individual items can't be found in the "All" menu either.  Anyone else have this problem?

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Re: Suddenly I can't trade crafts?
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2010, 01:01:47 pm »

Is there a path from the Depot to the items?
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Re: Suddenly I can't trade crafts?
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2010, 01:06:39 pm »

Yup.  Other items in the same room can be traded just fine.  I also just noticed that rough gems are also not showing up for trade.

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Re: Suddenly I can't trade crafts?
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2010, 01:09:23 pm »

Ah!  I just figured it out.  It's culling on mandates.  However, the mandate only says amulets, but screening for it removes all crafts and gems :(.

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Re: Suddenly I can't trade crafts?
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2010, 02:09:26 pm »

It's likely the bins that are getting culled, if you have things mixed into bins.
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Re: Suddenly I can't trade crafts?
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2010, 05:10:41 pm »

I think a lot of the time they get put in finished goods bins, and if there's a piece of clothing in there it gets counted as headwear or the like, so there aren't any crafts to display. This is just a hypothesis though, if anyone would like to offer a counter explanation.

My fort hasn't had any mandates yet and it's still not there.

For the longest time I thought there was no crafts option, because I had looked so much and never found it.
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Re: Suddenly I can't trade crafts?
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2010, 05:24:43 pm »

To help you out, Mugs do not appear in Crafts.
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Re: Suddenly I can't trade crafts?
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2010, 06:15:25 pm »

Search for "bins" on the trade window. Bring up all your finished goods bins. Manually unselect the mandated goods after selecting bins for trade. Now you can trade away the safe contents of the bins.
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Re: Suddenly I can't trade crafts?
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2010, 01:36:14 pm »

I like to sort the trade goods by value (d), then my bins of exports are usually at the top. Also, see the search there, it may help (although it is confounded by containers). Your best bet (and hard to do when the carvan is there, due to time), is make a custom stockpile with only allowed exports, and (take from stockpile if it wern't bugged), undesignate the stockpile for the crafts now, so they get resorted.
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Re: Suddenly I can't trade crafts?
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2010, 02:47:14 pm »

It's worth setting your final quality filter on these stockpiles to forbid artifacts.  An artifact hidden in a bin effectively hides the entire bin from your trader.  (It also means your artifacts are really too close to the main entrance and more likely to get stolen.  Stash them in a nice safe place deep in the fort to avoid tantrums from their creators.)
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Re: Suddenly I can't trade crafts?
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2010, 02:52:55 pm »

I think a lot of the time they get put in finished goods bins, and if there's a piece of clothing in there it gets counted as headwear or the like, so there aren't any crafts to display. This is just a hypothesis though, if anyone would like to offer a counter explanation.
It's true.  Happened in 40D too.  If that bin has one amulet, the whole bin will be culled.
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Re: Suddenly I can't trade crafts?
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2010, 04:59:35 pm »

It's worth setting your final quality filter on these stockpiles to forbid artifacts.  An artifact hidden in a bin effectively hides the entire bin from your trader.  (It also means your artifacts are really too close to the main entrance and more likely to get stolen.  Stash them in a nice safe place deep in the fort to avoid tantrums from their creators.)

They still appear, and their value is counted too, so they'll generally come up on the sort by value. They just don't get traded.
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Re: Suddenly I can't trade crafts?
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2019, 09:13:10 am »

Bumping this topic. This is super annoying when you're making crafts and trying to use just one bin to move them to the Trade Depot....
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Re: Suddenly I can't trade crafts?
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2019, 02:18:19 pm »

Bumping this topic. This is super annoying when you're making crafts and trying to use just one bin to move them to the Trade Depot....
Why are you bumping a 9 year old question that's already been answered?
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Re: Suddenly I can't trade crafts?
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2019, 02:30:59 pm »

The given solution, 'Search for "bins" on the trade window. ' does not appear to work (anymore?).

Testing with a recent save shows that I can not manually search for bins with a prohibited good inside from the trade window.
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