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[Ioric Kittencuddler]

Sooooo. Shall we call it a stable time loop and get on with our lives?

Second that. Also...

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You just lost The Game.

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What game?

[Strife26]

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[Pwnzerfaust]

Sooooo. Shall we call it a stable time loop and get on with our lives?

Second that. Also...

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You just lost The Game.

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What game?

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The Game.

[Muz]

Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.31


I'm the most neutral person on earth. You guys are all extremists

[Lord Dakoth]

I'm the most neutral person on earth. You guys are all extremists

True that, and damn proud of it. Compared to the results of everyone else here, I'm probably among the most radical here.

[Pathos]

Anyone remember Elf Quest?  Remember when Rayek tries to go back in time to save the first elves from being murdered by cavemen, which would in turn destroy the entire elven race that currently existed?  I liked Elf Quest.  I never did get much past that point though.

You know you can read it online, right?

[Leafsnail]

Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.31


I'm the most neutral person on earth. You guys are all extremists

Nuhuh, that makes you an EXTREME MODERATE.

[RedKing]

Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.74

I look to be just a notch or two away from Gandhi. Which is weird, cause I'm pretty sure Gandhi wouldn't have agreed with a lot of what I answered. That's the problem with aggregating all those dimensions down to two. I could advocate the death penalty for shoplifting, and also advocate free weed for everybody, and it'd average out to "moderate". (Gee, kinda like losing a friend to tragedy and eating in a legendary dining room...)

[Shades]

Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.49

Slightly left of the centre of the left/liberal square, I'm not convinced of some of the questions though I'm fairly sure the agree/disagree scale is a little ambiguous for them.

[Forumsdwarf]

Giving serial killers parole would be very libertarian, but not even Libertarians want that

I would disagree on it being very libertarian, libertarians, at least those that believe in only negative liberty, would say the killer has violated another's liberty or rights and sacrificed their own.  Most libertarians don't oppose enforcing and protecting those natural rights, so the question of military becomes an iffy one.  How could a libertarian support a police force bringing in a serial killer, if they oppose a force to capture Hitler?  All this test really proves is there's a million different positions out there that shouldn't be simplified on some little graph.

Wow... Libertarians would want to free killers?

I think he's confusing Libertarians with Anarchists.

My original quote:

NOT even Libertarians would want that.

I can make the "not" bigger if necessary ...

[Andir]

Giving serial killers parole would be very libertarian, but not even Libertarians want that

I would disagree on it being very libertarian, libertarians, at least those that believe in only negative liberty, would say the killer has violated another's liberty or rights and sacrificed their own.  Most libertarians don't oppose enforcing and protecting those natural rights, so the question of military becomes an iffy one.  How could a libertarian support a police force bringing in a serial killer, if they oppose a force to capture Hitler?  All this test really proves is there's a million different positions out there that shouldn't be simplified on some little graph.

Wow... Libertarians would want to free killers?

I think he's confusing Libertarians with Anarchists.

My original quote:

NOT even Libertarians would want that.

I can make the "not" bigger if necessary ...

The way it's phrased would say that freeing killers IS a libertarian ideal (which it's not) even though Libertarians (big L) would not want that.  So you are saying that freeing killers is a libertarian aspect... which it's not.  It's very anarchistic as they wouldn't have imprisoned them in the first place.  Libertarians very much understand that you can't have society without some law and oversight... just very little.

[Pathos]

The way it's phrased would say that freeing killers IS a libertarian ideal (which it's not) even though Libertarians (big L) would not want that.  So you are saying that freeing killers is a libertarian aspect... which it's not.  It's very anarchistic as they wouldn't have imprisoned them in the first place.  Libertarians very much understand that you can't have society without some law and oversight... just very little.

A better example would've been drugs:
Libertarian - Anyone should be allowed to take drugs, as long as they don't hurt someone.
Authoritarian - No one should be allowed to take drugs, to prevent them from hurting someone.

[PTTG??]

5.38 Leftiness points, Factor 7.28 Libertarian.

I think I'm kinda more extreme than the test thinks though. My ideal is "You may do anything so long as it does not infringe on the rights of others to do anything."
There's a lot of gray area in that, I'll admit. Particularly sharing resources... It's a work in progress.

[Forumsdwarf]

A better example would've been drugs

I mentioned drugs, both prescription and the always illegal kind.  For some reason everyone seems to be most interested in my casual speculation on what "libertarian extremism" might look like.  Ironically it was probably the least important part of what I wrote.

A belief in rehabilitation so extreme it would permit the parole of serial killers seems a decent depiction of extremist libertarianism, so extreme that no actual libertarian would actually believe in it.

While not directly analogous, the "Free Mumia" movement is a pretty good example of how extreme libertarian extremists can get.  (On the authoritarian - libertarian axis.)

I agree with those who have said that libertarians -- and Libertarians -- believe that a lack of law and order diminishes liberty.  That's why the "Free Mumia" libertarians I flagged as extremists not even Libertarians would make common cause with.  Yet the extreme faction does exist, and it would be hard to argue they were extremist authoritarians, so unless you want to take the position that they're bat shit crazy and don't belong on the graph at all they have to go somewhere.

[Shades]

Libertarian - Anyone should be allowed to take drugs, as long as they don't hurt someone.
Authoritarian - No one should be allowed to take drugs, to prevent them from hurting someone.

Depends what you count as hurting someone. When you have a free healthcare the issues some drugs can cause can be a drain on it and so in turn remove resources from those that aren't suffering self inflicted harm. Personally I'm pro legalisation but there are still issues that would have to be considered, probably along the lines of a tax on the drugs to pay for care but that doesn't cover the costs of currently legal drugs very well so it's all debatable.