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Adamantine Fist

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Refusing To Eat
« on: April 22, 2010, 11:02:03 pm »
What it says on the tin, pretty much. My dudes just won't eat, to the point where they will hunt for vermin. It's not that they are too busy to eat, even ones that are standing around with no jobs refuse to do so. The problem doesn't seem to extend to drinking, though. That they do just fine. I'd like to also point out that I'm using a new race I modded in. For the most part, the creature entry is a duplicate of the human entry, but with some tweaking and changes (to the appearance and stats mostly), and the entity entry is mostly a copy of the dwarven one, with some slight modifications (religion, etc.). I'm not entirely certain whether this should go here or in the dwarf mode section, but I'm afraid it might be related to my modding, as this has never happened to me before. So far this has happened on two seperate forts, in two seperate worlds.

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Re: Refusing To Eat
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2010, 02:44:20 pm »
*bump*

Anyone got any ideas?
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Re: Refusing To Eat
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2010, 05:48:57 pm »
Well, not sure if this has to do with your problem, but your creature is labeled as Daemon's, but in your entity part, the creature is defined with

[ENTITY:DAEMONE]
Pretty sure that extra E will cause SOME problem, if not with eating.

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« Last Edit: May 02, 2010, 08:52:28 pm by Lagotrope »
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Re: Refusing To Eat
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2010, 06:51:00 pm »
No it won't.  The name tag for the entity isn't really used by anything except the engine.  The entity name tag for dwarf's for instance is MOUNTAIN.  He's got the CREATURE:DAEMON tag correct, so that tag won't make a difference.

That being said, nothing jumps out at me as being obviously wrong.  Did you check your errorlog?
« Last Edit: May 02, 2010, 06:53:31 pm by derigo »
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Re: Refusing To Eat
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2010, 10:01:52 pm »
Errorlog is pretty much just full of stuff like this:

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Re: Refusing To Eat
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2010, 01:33:43 pm »
*bump*


So far, they're still unusable, and for no apparent reason still. Only way around this so far is giving them [NO_EAT] and [NO_DRINK], which isn't really what I want. This has occured on every world I've genned, and I do not experience this problem when playing as the dwarves.
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Re: Refusing To Eat
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2010, 08:52:13 am »
Comparing them to the Dwarf raws (via the Wiki) the only difference I see that doesn't look cosmetic is [ALCOHOL_DEPENDENT].

It *shouldn't* make a difference though.
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Re: Refusing To Eat
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2010, 01:05:57 pm »
Nothing there should make them unable to eat, but apparentely something is. Probabaly you found some bug which only manifests with modded games.

I guess the only way to fix this is to test which part is making it. Just leave out parts of the modded raws, test, repeat. I would suggest starting with the more uncommon pieces, as I havnt seen this problem pop up for anyone else.
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Re: Refusing To Eat
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2010, 01:41:18 pm »
I had this problem in kobold camp. It was all working fine but slowly all my kobolds started chasing down vermin and doing nothing else.

To solve this I edited their raws adding [NO_EAT] to the kobold creature entry. Putting all my kobolds in a burrow in a locked room and waiting for them to cancel their hunt for vermin job and releasing them from the room and the burrow. Removing the [NO_EAT] tag got them eating normally again. Unfortunately the fort fell due to bad moods shortly after, bad moods caused by them not recognising the food in my stockpiles.
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Re: Refusing To Eat
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2010, 11:30:39 pm »
Quote from: Vattic on May 10, 2010, 01:41:18 pm
I had this problem in kobold camp. It was all working fine but slowly all my kobolds started chasing down vermin and doing nothing else.

To solve this I edited their raws adding [NO_EAT] to the kobold creature entry. Putting all my kobolds in a burrow in a locked room and waiting for them to cancel their hunt for vermin job and releasing them from the room and the burrow. Removing the [NO_EAT] tag got them eating normally again. Unfortunately the fort fell due to bad moods shortly after, bad moods caused by them not recognising the food in my stockpiles.
Interesting. I shall have to look into this. Thank you for the tip.
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Re: Refusing To Eat
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2010, 11:47:34 pm »
Well, from looking in the raws... Some things I notice and might help...

You have TEETH_WITH_FANGS
Change it to GENERIC_TEETH_WITH_FANGS

maybe?
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Re: Refusing To Eat
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2010, 01:46:31 pm »
Those are a copy of the normal teeth used by humans and dwarves, but with fangs.
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Re: Refusing To Eat
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2010, 03:19:35 pm »
I'm aware of that, why not just give it a try? There was no entry that was just TEETH_WITH_FANGS.
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