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[masakhan]

I just started a fort as well to test my custom reactions...I'm planning on building a giant tower out of trash.

[Shaostoul]

If anyone knows any reactions they use that aren't listed here, let me know and I'll add them.

[TheBox]

Here's a question for you.  I'm working on a custom workshop for craft goods.  It's using a slightly different concept than usual crafted goods.  Current system takes raw ore or blocks and turns it into a crafted item.  Well, I'm going to a bit more realism, adding a bag of sand (preserved), and a bucket of water (bucket preserved) to the mix.

Basicly, instead of carving something out, it's going to be produced in the smelter via casting.  All of that is well and good and easy enough.  However, the act would raise both crafting and smelting skills.  So, the question of the hour is this, how would I make it up both of those skills?  Adding multiple skill lines doesn't seem to work properly.

[masakhan]

You would probably want to divide it up into multiple reactions. Maybe the furnace operator takes all the goods and makes a "cast" material first. Then the craftdwarf could take the cast back to the craftdwarf shop to finish it, or finish it at the smelter. You could make the cast a new type of stone so that it could be modified beyond base quality.

[Shaostoul]

Well, through the testing I've done, DF doesn't seem to use reagents effectively currently. Every way I tried I got the product and if I tried to preserve the reagent, it more used the bag than what was inside.

If I were you, you could try making a new product called crafting sludge (like cement) which could use crafting or w/e to making it. Then you would have a forge or something make a mold. Then you would take both items to the molding shop and you would use both as a reagent and preserve the mold and use the sludge and make it another crafting job?

Just a suggestion.

Containers are used fine, contained products aren't if you want to preserve the container.

[masakhan]

Any working reactions that place products into vials? I went through the guide section with barrel and bad production, but I didn't see any reactions with vials.

[Shaostoul]

Hmmm any examples of what goes into vials? I'll give it a look.

[Shaostoul]

I guess we can take an example and use venom...

[REAGENT:A:1:BARREL:NONE:NONE:NONE][EMPTY][PRESERVE_REAGENT]
[PRODUCT:100:1:LIQUID_MISC:NONE:CREATURE_MAT:SPIDER_CAVE_GIANT:POISON][PRODUCT_TO_CONTAINER:A]

Try VIAL instead of barrel? It's the only thing I can seem to find that makes sense.

[LucasUP]

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=56318.msg1219986#msg1219986
Apparently "STONE" is no longer a valid tag with the new version?

[Shaostoul]

Every reaction I've made I've been using in my game and every single one has been working for me. But for the sake of it not coming up any more, I suppose I'll change it.

[Deon]

It was working because STONE works as well as NONE now.

[Shaostoul]

Well then I'm lost...

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I'll just go with what I know works, if it works for me, it should work for you. End story. All my reactions are made and tested using the latest version of DF.

[TheBox]

Blarg, so there's no way to make a reaction train multiple skills?  Hmm...  I wonder if I can come up with a way to automate it so that they'll do two reactions automatically one after the other...  Anyone know how the automatic skills such as Render Fat work?  Or the farm fields automatically planting when you have seeds?  Perhaps I could make it so that as soon as a dwarf makes the mold, he'll automatically take it and make the crafted item as a second reaction.  Any ideas?

[Lancensis]

Huh. I didn't even notice that rendering fat was automatic now. Anyway, it's [AUTOMATIC] you want. If you have a reaction with that on, like your craft item reaction, as soon as the reagents become available (ie. the mould) the dwarf should preform it. I say "should" because, well.....y'know dwarves.

Oh, and just to avoid confusion, workshops don't really work much like farms, so don't assume if a farm can do something, a workshop can do anything similar.

[Shaostoul]

Yeah, farms are a whole different cup of tea, that we can't really touch right now.

I do believe it's just automatic.

You would have to manually produce the two reagents required for the item, unless you have a reaction produce two products, then both workshops would get to work with the automatic tag and then the final workshop would get to work. All of them cept the first one with the automatic tag.