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[Coidzure Dreams]

http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1857



Does Zach Weiner play DF?  Or at least know of it?

Dun,dun, dun, and all that rot, eh?

[Sindayven]

Don't forget the red button mouse-over thing.

[Satarus]

No, Zach just likes to use his little strawman arguments whenever religion comes up.

[Vester]

"God-blor" was in no way a strawman. Zach is just weird, is all.

[zwei]

Someone should tell him about DF then.

No, Zach just likes to use his little strawman arguments whenever religion comes up.

Doesn't everyone?

[Shima]

A world where God isn't an extremely angry, short, bearded man with a chip on his shoulder and a sick sense of humor isn't a world I'd want to live in.  What would we sacrifice all the blood to without him?

[tfaal]

No, Zach just likes to use his little strawman arguments whenever religion comes up.

I don't think it counts as a strawman argument, mainly because it's not attempting to argue any particular point. In order for there to be a strawman argument, the caricature of the opponent's position must not only be built up, but then deconstructed as if it were their actual position. Furthermore, if it were a strawman, it would be one against God, as He is the only character in the strip behaving unreasonably. Since God's positions, if existent, have not been unambiguously stated, they cannot be misrepresented; only people's personal understanding's of God's positions can be misrepresented, and that clearly isn't the intent of the comic. I don't think anyone believes in the "Happy-go-lucky, causing outrageous catastrophes for the hell of it" God depicted in the comic, and I don't think Weiner intended to trick anyone into thinking that was a popular interpretation.

[Misterstone]

I think the issues of (***EXPLICIT! SUPER NOT SAFE FOR WORK WOOT WOOT WOOT***) Oglaf.com  (***EXPLICIT! SUPER NOT SAFE FOR WORK WOOT WOOT WOOT***) that had the crazy dwarves in them reminded me of DF.

[Krash]

No, Zach just likes to use his little strawman arguments whenever religion comes up.

I don't think it counts as a strawman argument, mainly because it's not attempting to argue any particular point. In order for there to be a strawman argument, the caricature of the opponent's position must not only be built up, but then deconstructed as if it were their actual position. Furthermore, if it were a strawman, it would be one against God, as He is the only character in the strip behaving unreasonably. Since God's positions, if existent, have not been unambiguously stated, they cannot be misrepresented; only people's personal understanding's of God's positions can be misrepresented, and that clearly isn't the intent of the comic. I don't think anyone believes in the "Happy-go-lucky, causing outrageous catastrophes for the hell of it" God depicted in the comic, and I don't think Weiner intended to trick anyone into thinking that was a popular interpretation.

Asperger's strikes again





But seriously, you're right

[Misterstone]

I don't know about the author of that comic, but people still use the "if God is real/benevolent why does he let tsunamis happen" argument quite a bit in informal debate.  Just sayin'.

[Krash]

I don't know about the author of that comic, but people still use the "if God is real/benevolent why does he let tsunamis happen" argument quite a bit in informal debate.  Just sayin'.

Out of genuine curiosity, what's the fallacy with that statement?

[Misterstone]

Better ask the person who used the term "straw man" in reference to those comics.

[Reese]

I don't know about the author of that comic, but people still use the "if God is real/benevolent why does he let tsunamis happen" argument quite a bit in informal debate.  Just sayin'.

Out of genuine curiosity, what's the fallacy with that statement?

He didn't say it was a fallacy, he just said it comes up a lot.  The question to ask would be why people use it.

I will not state my own opinions here on the matter, though.

[amjh]

Asperger's strikes again

Personally, I think having condition that makes one think too much about stuff is better than thinking too little about stuff... 

(Guess how much time I spend thinking about the details of the above sentences wording)

[Kagus]

Y'know, I tried reading that comic a while back...  Can't remember how many I read, something over a hundred.

Most of it was just...  Well, not funny.  I could see no comedic reason for those strips to exist.  Sometimes they were just bland, other times they were downright insulting to my sense of humor. 

But, once in a blue moon, there'd be one strip that was absolutely sodding genius.  Eventually, however, I decided that it just wasn't worth slogging through the rest of it...


And yes, the Oglaf dwarves did bring to mind a certain much-loved computer game.  Their contraptions seemed positively dwarven.