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It's disgusting exploitation and degradation of a human being.

18 (20.9%)

It's pretty terrible.

14 (16.3%)

I don't care about it.

6 (7%)

Sort've funny.

15 (17.4%)

Absolutely hilarious.

21 (24.4%)

Other Opinion ( Please Post )

2 (2.3%)

Don't care / View poll

10 (11.6%)

Total Members Voted: 86

[cowofdoom78963]

And yes, anyone can hurt anyone if they really try. Intentionally doing things that cause this risk to skyrocket is something that should be discouraged.

I disagree.

Really? You don't think the law should try to improve safety and order?

Not by doing unjust things.

[Pwnzerfaust]

And yes, anyone can hurt anyone if they really try. Intentionally doing things that cause this risk to skyrocket is something that should be discouraged.

I disagree.

Really? You don't think the law should try to improve safety and order?

Not by doing unjust things.

It's not unjust. Did you fail reading comprehension in middle school and high school or something? I told you why those laws exist.

[SIGVARDR]

It's obviously a waste of breath to argue with someone so blinded. Good luck with those drugs.

[cowofdoom78963]

And yes, anyone can hurt anyone if they really try. Intentionally doing things that cause this risk to skyrocket is something that should be discouraged.

I disagree.

Really? You don't think the law should try to improve safety and order?

Not by doing unjust things.

It's not unjust. Did you fail reading comprehension in middle school and high school or something? I told you why those laws exist.

And I told you why I think their unjust. The law makes an assumption. I dont think people should be judged on assumptions no matter how reasonable you think they are.

[Pwnzerfaust]

And yes, anyone can hurt anyone if they really try. Intentionally doing things that cause this risk to skyrocket is something that should be discouraged.

I disagree.

Really? You don't think the law should try to improve safety and order?

Not by doing unjust things.

It's not unjust. Did you fail reading comprehension in middle school and high school or something? I told you why those laws exist.

And I told you why I think their unjust. The law makes an assumption. I dont think people should be judged on assumptions no matter how reasonable you think they are.

It's not an assumption. It's simple statistical fact that people on drugs, and people addicted to drugs, are many, many times more likely to commit other crimes. The best way to deter it, and to pre-empt it, is to attack the root cause: drug use.

[Acanthus117]

I have to agree with Pwnzerfaust.

[cowofdoom78963]

And yes, anyone can hurt anyone if they really try. Intentionally doing things that cause this risk to skyrocket is something that should be discouraged.

I disagree.

Really? You don't think the law should try to improve safety and order?

Not by doing unjust things.

It's not unjust. Did you fail reading comprehension in middle school and high school or something? I told you why those laws exist.

And I told you why I think their unjust. The law makes an assumption. I dont think people should be judged on assumptions no matter how reasonable you think they are.

It's not an assumption. It's simple statistical fact that people on drugs, and people addicted to drugs, are many, many times more likely to commit other crimes. The best way to deter it, and to pre-empt it, is to attack the root cause: drug use.

Statistics aren't facts and pre-emptive attacks based on statistics are based on assumption.

"I assume this guy will commit a robbery becuase he is on crack"

[Pwnzerfaust]

And yes, anyone can hurt anyone if they really try. Intentionally doing things that cause this risk to skyrocket is something that should be discouraged.

I disagree.

Really? You don't think the law should try to improve safety and order?

Not by doing unjust things.

It's not unjust. Did you fail reading comprehension in middle school and high school or something? I told you why those laws exist.

And I told you why I think their unjust. The law makes an assumption. I dont think people should be judged on assumptions no matter how reasonable you think they are.

It's not an assumption. It's simple statistical fact that people on drugs, and people addicted to drugs, are many, many times more likely to commit other crimes. The best way to deter it, and to pre-empt it, is to attack the root cause: drug use.

Statistics aren't facts and pre-emptive attacks based on statistics are based on assumption.

"I assume this guy will commit a robbery becuase he is on crack"

Wrong. It's more like, "Statistics show that people who use these narcotics will likely commit other crimes. Therefore, these narcotics should be forbidden, and those using them should be locked up for their own protection, and the protection of others."

[G-Flex]

It's hardly an issue of statistics alone, too, since we know why it makes them more likely to commit crime.

[Jackrabbit]

Statistics aren't always facts but statistics can be facts. Therefore, if a lot more people commit crimes whilst under the influence of drugs, being under the influence of drugs must be a factor. Therefore people under the influence are dangerous and to prevent an actual crime occurring (one that could very well cause serious harm) why shouldn't people under the influence of drugs be jailed, even for one night?

It's hardly an issue of statistics alone, too, since we know why it makes them more likely to commit crime.

And that too is important.

[Renault]

I think a lot of this moral debate about his danger to others ignores the fact that it doesnt matter if the law is justified or not in this situation. He got arrested because he used illegal drugs; Cops exist to enforce laws, not morals. Thus even if the law is unjust, they still should have arrested him because he broke the law and they enforce the law. The rest is all just moral theory; interesting, but sort of removed from the reality of what actually happened here.

[cowofdoom78963]

Wrong. It's more like, "Statistics show that people who use these narcotics will likely commit other crimes. Therefore, these narcotics should be forbidden, and those using them should be locked up for their own protection, and the protection of others."

That's still an assumption.

why shouldn't people under the influence of drugs be jailed, even for one night?

Becuase while they may have a higher chance of commiting a crime. They have not commited a crime.

It's hardly an issue of statistics alone, too, since we know why it makes them more likely to commit crime.

Alot of things can increase the chance of a person to commit crime.

Thus even if the law is unjust, they still should have arrested him because he broke the law and they enforce the law.

Im not really upset about the cops though.

[Jackrabbit]

why shouldn't people under the influence of drugs be jailed, even for one night?

Becuase while they may have a higher chance of commiting a crime. They have not commited a crime.

You've heard of drunk tanks, right? Where people seriously over the limit can spend the night so they're not a danger to themselves and others?

In all honesty, if this guy was on drugs, that's probably what happened. Less of an arrest and more them taking him somewhere we he can't, for example, be tricked into running into a pole by a couple of douchebags.

[Pwnzerfaust]

why shouldn't people under the influence of drugs be jailed, even for one night?

Becuase while they may have a higher chance of commiting a crime. They have not commited a crime.

Yes they have. They took illegal drugs. That's a crime.

[cowofdoom78963]

why shouldn't people under the influence of drugs be jailed, even for one night?

Becuase while they may have a higher chance of commiting a crime. They have not commited a crime.

Yes they have. They took illegal drugs. That's a crime.

Whatever man. As far as Im concerned he hasn't done anything wrong.

You've heard of drunk tanks, right? Where people seriously over the limit can spend the night so they're not a danger to themselves and others?

In all honesty, if this guy was on drugs, that's probably what happened. Less of an arrest and more them taking him somewhere we he can't, for example, be tricked into running into a pole by a couple of douchebags.

That is if he was drunk...