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[Jim Groovester]

...I have no idea what you're trying to get at.

See l2communicate effectively.

[ToonyMan]

First it was don't vote myself. Now it's don't vote other people. Pray tell, ToonyMan, what is it I should be doing?

You are a person.

[Jim Groovester]

Fuck this. I'm tired of arguing with someone who can only post a useless fragment of an argument every single post.

[ToonyMan]

That means I win the argument.  You admit to it.  Scum.

[Mephansteras]

That means I win the argument.  You admit to it.  Scum.

I've never seen someone giving up on an argument with you or Org that actually proved them being scum, Toony. It simply means that you're frustrating to deal with.

[ToonyMan]

He's not cooperating with me, thus that's a scum tell, thus that means scum.

[Pandarsenic]

I for one welcome our new Broverlords.

[Org]

@Vector
I think quite many players will vote for me, and, you might get NK:d to frame me.

Also, @Janus, I'm not scum, I'm playing Orgishly. Because I'm newbie. I also think that saying: "They haven't done anything scummy, therefore they must be scum!" is quite irrational.

Oh god. Not another.
Hey Ottofar(unvote whoever). Discounting others reasons cuz you are a newb?
Hehe. Nice way to get people off you scum.

[Ottofar]

@Vector
I think quite many players will vote for me, and, you might get NK:d to frame me.

Also, @Janus, I'm not scum, I'm playing Orgishly. Because I'm newbie. I also think that saying: "They haven't done anything scummy, therefore they must be scum!" is quite irrational.

Oh god. Not another.
Hey Ottofar(unvote whoever). Discounting others reasons cuz you are a newb?
Hehe. Nice way to get people off you scum.

Go ahead and lynch me. Should I tell you my role?

[Org]

@Vector
I think quite many players will vote for me, and, you might get NK:d to frame me.

Also, @Janus, I'm not scum, I'm playing Orgishly. Because I'm newbie. I also think that saying: "They haven't done anything scummy, therefore they must be scum!" is quite irrational.

Oh god. Not another.
Hey Ottofar(unvote whoever). Discounting others reasons cuz you are a newb?
Hehe. Nice way to get people off you scum.

Go ahead and lynch me. Should I tell you my role?

What.

[Ottofar]

 I just asked, do you want to know my role? I'm town. Just ask for the role.

Also to whoever said that people are not going to not vote for Org because heis Org, is wrong. I might appear scummy, but so does Org. There was discussion some pages ago, that should Org be lynched, because he always seems scummy.

[JanusTwoface]

Wall of text warning. 

Spoiler: You have been warned (click to show/hide)

You mean that last post is the second time? I meant that I agree with the people saying it's irrational. It's actually irrational in kind of same way as my paranoia-episode. Of which half was joke.

Be very careful when you joke.  It's the internet, often enough we can't tell.

I think quite many players will vote for me, and, you might get NK:d to frame me.

Okay.  You know what?  No, no, and no.  I've played with noobs before, and this is not how townies look.  Seriously, quit it or hang.  I'm giving you one day of grace, and if you shape up then I won't have to eat you--but as-is, you're like a scum-tell-o-matic, here.

If he's scum, why are you giving him a day?

Nope. Town game. And if I get lynched I hope to hell you all look back at what I've said.

Nice jump.  There's only one vote on you.

True.  Partially I've been sick for a week and partially I don't care for being called ineffective scum.  Scum sure, but ineffective scum?  Sigh.

I'm saying those five haven't said enough, especially Pandarsenic (6 pointless posts out of 10 and all 4 of those were crazy short) and Mephansteras (6 useful post out of 9 mostly being reactive).  For reference, I'd expect closer to 15 posts on average based on how long the games been running.  And bull on not attacking anyone:  Ottofar is scum.

Why didn't you just say that in the first place?

Thought I had.  Guess I didn't.  Long post, easy to forget things.

Jim is actually lurking. I think Janus is scummier, with that suspicionless suspicion, though.

By suspiciously suspicion you mean OMGUS, right?

it is stated above.

 
Can you stop repeating what others have said? Grow a freakin back bone.

Hey pot.  This is kettle.

Note: a LYOL is possible tomorrow, just very unlikely.

Sure it's possible.  It's also possible for the game to end in a tie today.  We just have to multi-lynch *everyone*.  Not going to happen.  99% sure LYLO isn't either.  Don't base your strategy on it.

Jim Groovester
Reply #108 - Claims Motivational Voter
Reply #117 - The best of example of true WIFOM I've seen in a while (in italics): "If I were scum, ..."
Reply #130 - Being unusually aggresive

The "If I were scum..." thing was me being desperate. I didn't want to get lynched just because I hurt ToonyMan's feelings, so I tried convincing him to unvote. That didn't work because ToonyMan is being stubborn, possibly deliberately just to see me lynched.

Also, I don't see how I'm being unusually aggressive in that post you linked, not any more than usual.

I'll give you the point about not being unusually agressive there.  Not sure what I was thinking there.  But that is a prime example of WIFOM, even if it wasn't meant to be.  A lot of people misuse the term.  It's either making an unusual decision and making people think "he wouldn't possibly do that" or saying "If I were scum, I'd never do that" because chances are, if some strange situation came up where it would be helpful, I'm sure you'd do it.

I'm going to warn you all now.

Actual sent PMs, edited as I felt necessary. Wuba, if you feel further editing is needed let me know.

Hurr hurr Secret Voter (townlolol).

Secret Voter - Haha, you're secret voter again

Known role

I hate you so much.

So yeah. I'm trying to figure out what the fuck I do right now so I don't accidentally cause ties or anything.

Edited by mod request

Um.  K?  I don't even know what to think of this.

He's not cooperating with me, thus that's a scum tell, thus that means scum.

Really?  He's not cooperating with you're refusal to explain more clearly thus scum?  Huh.  Sucks to be him I guess?

Oh, and far as I can tell, you're refering to these lines:
"Don't vote people to give them extra votes."
"You are a person Jim."

Basically, he's saying don't vote at all.  Just not directly.

I just asked, do you want to know my role? I'm town. Just ask for the role.

Also to whoever said that people are not going to not vote for Org because heis Org, is wrong. I might appear scummy, but so does Org. There was discussion some pages ago, that should Org be lynched, because he always seems scummy.

Oh, I would totally be voting for Org (or maybe ToonyMan) right now if you weren't playing.  But you are.  So you first.

[Ottofar]

With Org voting for me it's tie?

I'm mirror voter, by the way.

[Jokerman-EXE]

Ottofar, you are giving me the scummiest vibes right now.

I know that you're nooby, but I played in all the other games you've been in (what, two?) and you've never acted like this. You're extremely jumpy and reactive, and you seem to try to be implying a lot.

For example, you made a statement that Vector might be killed to frame you. Isn't that almost pure WIFOM? You could be the scum, you kill Vector, and then, oh look, you have an out! "I've been framed, believe me!"

Your roleclaim might be legit, but it seems to me that you're more trying to dodge getting voted and, in turn, killed. To be honest, you're the scummiest player in my eyes, and I'd put my vote on you if my vote meant squat. As it is, I'm hoping my Random Vote lands on you.

Care to address?

[Ottofar]

Well. I know I've been scummy. It all started when I did that OMGUS and the paranoia thing.  I was really tired when I did that, and realized  the following day, that the paranoia episode didn't look as jokey as it had looked when I wrote it. I was about to tell that was partially joke,  even if it was random vote, but I was having an IT class then, and had to shutdown the computer, as the class had just ended, and the teacher was right next to me. Then I forgot to tell that here when I got home.