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[JanusTwoface]

That's because there is someone scummy in basically every post you've made to some degree or another.

Both #56 and #158 are sides of the same issue.  Basically you seem overly defensive when there's not too much reason to be so just then.

Also:

Day Extended to Thursday 9 PM Central.

[Ottofar]

Thanks.
Also, that overdefensiveness is probably my newbishness.

[Jokerman-EXE]

[spoiler=Jokerman-EXE]
Reply #161 - Posting from phone, but promised "more later" post (which hasn't shown up yet)

*looks up* Did too.

PFP.

[ToonyMan]

Unvote Pandarsenic.

ToonyMan, you're sidelining heavily. You've been voting Jim without giving your own reasons and making posts without substance since that whole argument began. I'd like to hear your reasoning.

Nope I'm not sidelining, I have given reasons as well.

Extra bit of suspicion on Toonyman and Mephansteras for posting little enough that I didn't find any specific scummy posts while scanning through.  Than Mr.Person and Vector for only having one each and Pandarsenic for barely having two.  It's likely enough that the scum team has one player that's obvious and one that's not.

Scum for not finding anything scummy?  That's laughable.

[JanusTwoface]

You have 7 posts (paged by my forum settings):

Spoiler: Jokerman-EXE's posts (click to show/hide)

Page 1/4:
Reply #35 - Stalk Pandarsenic's GF, claim both your and known role
Reply #37 - OOC

Page 2/4:
Nothing.

Page 3/4:
Reply #101 - Uses role to justify lurking, "reading over the thread now for analysis"
Reply #106 - Answer RV question "are you scum?": "No"

Page 4/4:
Reply #159 - Muses about being motivated, posting from phone
Reply #161 - Claims ToonyMan is sidelining
Reply #167 - Your last reply

So yeah.  You're lurking pretty heavily.  You first say it's because of your role, but I've already seen that discussed at least once in Vote Mafia.  Even if you have no control over your vote, you still need to apply pressure and find scum.  Otherwise you're worse than useless to the town because we have to suspect you for lurking.  Just don't vote if you're worried about your role.

And you've said you were "reading over the thread now for analysis" last page and would post more later on this page.  When I see those, I expect something at least a few paragraphs of analysis.  Which is mostly just my style, but it would be nice if others would do it too.  Gives scum a lot more chance to slip up.

As far as claiming: We probably would have figured that one out pretty quickly unless you jump to who you were voting otherwise.  So basically, you're using it as an excuse to lurk.  Claiming by itself: meh, fine.  Claiming to lurk: bad.  So don't lurk.  Post more when you find computer access.  Or type a lot on your phone (I know that's not fun, I did it some the week I was out of the country a few weeks ago).

Extra bit of suspicion on Toonyman and Mephansteras for posting little enough that I didn't find any specific scummy posts while scanning through.  Than Mr.Person and Vector for only having one each and Pandarsenic for barely having two.  It's likely enough that the scum team has one player that's obvious and one that's not.

Scum for not finding anything scummy?  That's laughable.

The five players I mentioned are all players that have been on the boards for longer than I have.  At different points, I've seen each of them (probably, cannot remember for sure) be town and scum and often impressively scum.

So it's not at all wrong to look for someone that's *too perfect*.  Heck, you see it in movies all the time. 

It's also means you may have been on the borders of lurking (it's day 1, slow starts meh) which isn't good either.

[Mr.Person]

@Janus: You can't accuse someone as scum because "they're too perfect" or whatever the fuck you're saying. This is, literally, what you're saing:

"I don't think ToonyMan or Pand are scum, but maybe they are. I dunno! I have no opinion!"

Which is a great way to keep your options open and spread unwarrented suspiscion if you're scum. If you're town, it makes you useless, since you're not really accusing anyone of anything nor are you saying who you think is suspiscious.

Really?

Wow.
This makes me want to unvote.
Also, try not to use another's reasons.

Bwhahahahahahahaha! That slaps me on da knee!

Alright, be a hypocrite. Continue being scummy. Whatever.

[Vector]

Thanks.
Also, that overdefensiveness is probably my newbishness.

I'm voting you tomorrow.

As for today, however... JanusTwoFace.  You're playing your scum game again, and botching it up as usual.

[webadict]

Vote Count
------------------------
Vector - Pandarsenic,
Jokerman-EXE -
ToonyMan - Jokerman-EXE,
Jim Groovester - ToonyMan, Org,
JanusTwoface - Vector,
Org - Mr.Person, criptfeind, Ottofar,
Pandarsenic -
Mr.Person -
Mephansteras -
Ottofar - JanusTwoface,
criptfeind -

Not Voting - Mephansteras,

Day ends Thursday 9 PM Central. 2 Extensions Heard.

[JanusTwoface]

@Janus: You can't accuse someone as scum because "they're too perfect" or whatever the fuck you're saying. This is, literally, what you're saing:

"I don't think ToonyMan or Pand are scum, but maybe they are. I dunno! I have no opinion!"

Which is a great way to keep your options open and spread unwarrented suspiscion if you're scum. If you're town, it makes you useless, since you're not really accusing anyone of anything nor are you saying who you think is suspiscious.

I'm saying those five haven't said enough, especially Pandarsenic (6 pointless posts out of 10 and all 4 of those were crazy short) and Mephansteras (6 useful post out of 9 mostly being reactive).  For reference, I'd expect closer to 15 posts on average based on how long the games been running.  And bull on not attacking anyone:  Ottofar is scum.

Thanks.
Also, that overdefensiveness is probably my newbishness.

I'm voting you tomorrow.

As for today, however... JanusTwoFace.  You're playing your scum game again, and botching it up as usual.

Nope. Town game. And if I get lynched I hope to hell you all look back at what I've said.

[Ottofar]

@Vector
I think quite many players will vote for me, and, you might get NK:d to frame me.

Also, @Janus, I'm not scum, I'm playing Orgishly. Because I'm newbie. I also think that saying: "They haven't done anything scummy, therefore they must be scum!" is quite irrational.

[JanusTwoface]

Also, @Janus, I'm not scum, I'm playing Orgishly. Because I'm newbie. I also think that saying: "They haven't done anything scummy, therefore they must be scum!" is quite irrational.

Fix it.  And we should lynch Org when he does it too, although we don't "because he's Org".  Ug.

And repeating other players without adding new content is also scummy (and you've done it more than once, see previous list).

[Ottofar]

You mean that last post is the second time? I meant that I agree with the people saying it's irrational. It's actually irrational in kind of same way as my paranoia-episode. Of which half was joke.

[Vector]

I think quite many players will vote for me, and, you might get NK:d to frame me.

Okay.  You know what?  No, no, and no.  I've played with noobs before, and this is not how townies look.  Seriously, quit it or hang.  I'm giving you one day of grace, and if you shape up then I won't have to eat you--but as-is, you're like a scum-tell-o-matic, here.

Nope. Town game. And if I get lynched I hope to hell you all look back at what I've said.

Nice jump.  There's only one vote on you.

[Ottofar]

Vector, that was not a threat. It was merely speculation, since you said that you will vote for me tomorrow, it would be easy to frame me.

[Mr.Person]

I'm saying those five haven't said enough, especially Pandarsenic (6 pointless posts out of 10 and all 4 of those were crazy short) and Mephansteras (6 useful post out of 9 mostly being reactive).  For reference, I'd expect closer to 15 posts on average based on how long the games been running.  And bull on not attacking anyone:  Ottofar is scum.

Why didn't you just say that in the first place?