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[FreakyCheeseMan]

So, I've been having too many syndrome-related ideas, figured I'd start putting them all in one place, see what other people come up with.

Newest: a very weak, maybe-not-even-aggressive creature whose blood has some sort of highly-nasty effect- maybe just instant unconsciousness, maybe fast-acting necrosis- but has it as an inhale effect, rather than a contact one- and the blood gets a very low boiling point.

So, your military goes up to one of these things, cuts it, and there's an instant explosion of its blood, as your squad rots out of their uniforms in a second.

[Max White]

Hello freaky!
Plump helmet men got you thinking too? I'm currently modding in an above ground version of them, just so I don't need to dig so deep for there sweet flesh.

But back on topic! Yes, that would be cool.

[FreakyCheeseMan]

To make them more valuable, you could make them milkable for something of value, so you have reason to domesticate them, but if they wander onto your front lines, you're in trouble.

[Warlord255]

I've been trying to figure out if vermin can have secretions to spread gas or liquid contaminants as a mass-delivery system. No luck thus far, sadly, as I've had to rely on third parties for testing until the Mac version releases.

I'm also considering giving a creature a liquid brain with mind-altering effects, insofar as it's possible.

[FreakyCheeseMan]

Heh, right there with you. I'm doing my best to push additional syndrome stuff in the suggestions thread, but I think I've hit my limit without being pushy.

[Max White]

Well I'm sure toady doesn't care how pushy we are.

If I were him I would read through suggestions, and if I thought they were cool I would do it and everybody else be dammed!

[FreakyCheeseMan]

Well, I already have two syndrome topics on the suggestion boards- add mental effects, and add contagions.

I'm a little conflicted about it- on the one hand, it's Toady's game, and I'm sure every player has things they want him to be doing with it.

On the other, based on what I know about programming and what I've gleaned of the system he's using, syndromes are low-hanging fruit that would add a *lot* to the game.

[Max White]

Well something making a dwarf go beserker is as easy as calling up a function, as everything is already built in.

Personally I would be over the moon if toady separated civilizations that live in caves with those that are 'hidden', that was I could have groups of evil knights living in dark towers within attack range, and you would never know they were there.

It would be easy as anything to do, but who knows if he will.

[bobsnewaddress]

I've been trying to figure out if vermin can have secretions to spread gas or liquid contaminants as a mass-delivery system. No luck thus far, sadly, as I've had to rely on third parties for testing until the Mac version releases.

I'm also considering giving a creature a liquid brain with mind-altering effects, insofar as it's possible.

I'm not sure that Vermin can attack at all (in fact I'm almost certain they can't), so the idea of Vermin created syndromes is still an impossibility at this point. Which is a shame since I really wanted to mod in a disease spread by Rats similar to the Black Death.

[Arkenstone]

By the way, I think I may have found a new method of weaponizing poison, please check it out and tell me whether I'm a mad genius, or just plain old stark raving mad.

[Caesar]

I've been trying to figure out if vermin can have secretions to spread gas or liquid contaminants as a mass-delivery system. No luck thus far, sadly, as I've had to rely on third parties for testing until the Mac version releases.

I'm also considering giving a creature a liquid brain with mind-altering effects, insofar as it's possible.

I'm not sure that Vermin can attack at all (in fact I'm almost certain they can't), so the idea of Vermin created syndromes is still an impossibility at this point. Which is a shame since I really wanted to mod in a disease spread by Rats similar to the Black Death.

If I'm right you could do that with:

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[VERMIN_BITE:100:bitten:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLACK_DEATH]

The '100' stands for chance of the vermin 'biting' a creature that steps onto the same tile, if I recall correctly.

I'm not sure what you named your syndrome carrying extract, but you should put the name of that one where I put 'BLACK_DEATH'.

Try;

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[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLACK_DEATH:CREATURE_EXTRACT_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:frozen black death extract]
[STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen black death extract]
[STATE_NAME:LIQUID:black death extract]
[STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:black death extract]
[STATE_NAME:GAS:boiling black death extract]
[STATE_ADJ:GAS:boiling black death extract]
[PREFIX:NONE]
[ENTERS_BLOOD]
[SYNDROME]
[SYN_NAME:black death]
[SYN_AFFECTED_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
[SYN_INJECTED]


[Evil One]

I wonder... If a creature was created that oozed pus with a syndrome attached to it, would anyone infected also generate infected pus?

[FreakyCheeseMan]

I wonder... If a creature was created that oozed pus with a syndrome attached to it, would anyone infected also generate infected pus?

Which condition are you talking about here? I've been trying to come up with a way to make contagions without more help from Toady...

[Max White]

So I had this thought last night.
Would it be possible to add another liquid to the dwarfs list of liquids (Like blood and pus) that ONLY oozes when there affected by a certain illness, but also carrys the illness?

That would effectively make it spread, but not sure how doable it is.

[Warlord255]

So I had this thought last night.
Would it be possible to add another liquid to the dwarfs list of liquids (Like blood and pus) that ONLY oozes when there affected by a certain illness, but also carrys the illness?

That would effectively make it spread, but not sure how doable it is.

COUGH_BLOOD or VOMIT_BLOOD would work if Dwarf blood was inherently poisonous. However, ENTERS_BLOOD cannot make a dwarf's blood "contaminated" yet.

If I'm right you could do that with:

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[VERMIN_BITE:100:bitten:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLACK_DEATH]

The '100' stands for chance of the vermin 'biting' a creature that steps onto the same tile, if I recall correctly.

I'm not sure what you named your syndrome carrying extract, but you should put the name of that one where I put 'BLACK_DEATH'.

Try;

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[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLACK_DEATH:CREATURE_EXTRACT_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:frozen black death extract]
[STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen black death extract]
[STATE_NAME:LIQUID:black death extract]
[STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:black death extract]
[STATE_NAME:GAS:boiling black death extract]
[STATE_ADJ:GAS:boiling black death extract]
[PREFIX:NONE]
[ENTERS_BLOOD]
[SYNDROME]
[SYN_NAME:black death]
[SYN_AFFECTED_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
[SYN_INJECTED]


I had considered a plague of biting vermin, which would probably work splendidly... if I wanted it transmitted by bite. The goal was to simulate gas-explosions with vermin as a delivery system, or otherwise have contaminants be introduced by the environment.