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[Judas Maccabeus]

Hm?  Phantom's causing trouble again?  I've long since stopped reading his posts.  Maybe I can find some way of blocking him from posting in here... or maybe I could get someone with more authority to do so...

[CJ1145]

I've considered trying that. It's not just your threads, it's every one that involves a game. He pops up, "innocently" tells you to go do something, explaining all the twists and turns of the plot along the way, and then leaves. It's annoying, and I'm considering requesting Toady to tell him to stop. I figure if dozens of his fellow forum-goers can't stop him, maybe somebody with a big name can.

[Dragooble]

Go the goody-two-shoes path.

[ThreeToe]

I have warned Phantom to stay out of this thread.  If you have anymore problems with him, please use the moderator report button.

[Acanthus117]

Hey, Maccabeus, I have a query.

Is it possible to hold a blaster and a sword? I was thinking of getting this game, and I love doing illogical stuff like this...

[Phantom]

Is it possible to hold a blaster and a sword?

No, you cannot.

I will leave now.

Actually I shouldn't have even posted this, now I can't remove it. My god I wish there was a delete post button.

[Acanthus117]

I AM DISSAPOINT

Just kidding.

Oh well.

[Rilder]

We should go down the goody two shoes path till some stressful situation that causes us to snap and kill everybody in the immediate area.

[Judas Maccabeus]

Is it possible to hold a blaster and a sword? I was thinking of getting this game, and I love doing illogical stuff like this...

Hehe, no, sorry.  Believe me, I've tried to do that myself before.  Ah, well, as they say, never bring a knife to a gunfight, and never bring a gun to a lightsaber fight (unless it's KotOR 2).

We should go down the goody two shoes path till some stressful situation that causes us to snap and kill everybody in the immediate area.

If we do Korriban like I like doing, you'll get your wish (not that it counts as leaving the good path, technically). 

[Judas Maccabeus]

I Have Seen the Promised Land

Spoiler: Lower Sewers (click to show/hide)

Now it's time for the sewer that every RPG since the beginning of time has had.



Needless to say, there's a pretty good number of rakghouls in here.



And there's the force field already.



[mission] "I've got the codes to lower the shield, but we have to rescue Zaalbar from those Gamorrean slavers.  Don't worry - we can come back after we find Big Z."



So, let's cut our way through said Gamorreans.  Remember those pig-things from Return of the Jedi?  That's them.



Also, more rakghouls.



Around one corner, we run into a good-sized group of Gamorreans (good-sized in number, not... never mind), including their leader.  No, I'm not sure why he's red-coloured in the first one.



Mission and Carth help by shooting from off-camera, though, and soon we've cut through them.  Another wanders in from the side but doesn't last long.



Mission then notices this door.

"You can't use conventional security spikes on these old locks, but don't worry, I've come across them before.  I've rigged up a little device that should do the trick."



Well if it isn't Big Z!

"You're a sight for sore eyes, Mission."

"I'm glad to see you too, Big Z!  You didn't think I'd forget about you - Mission and Zaalbar, together forever!"

"Who's that with you?"



WHOA.

"A lifedebt?  Are you sure about that, Big Z?  Think about it carefully.  You better be sure about this."

"I am sure, Mission.  This is an issue of great importance to me.  Because of our great physical strength, Wookies are being used as slave labor on our own homeworld.  They see us as brutes and animals to be exploited.  Over the years slavers have taken many of my people; we must always be on guard against raids against our villages.  When the Gamorreans captured me, I thought I was doomed to a life of servitude.  I have been saved from such a fate, and the only way I can repay that is through a lifedebt."

"Big Z" swearing a Wookiee lifedebt to you.  Wow - this is major.  Do you realize what this means?"

"It's some kind of loyalty vow, isn't it?"

"A lifedebt is the most solemn vow a Wookiee can make.  It means he'll stay by your side for the rest of your life - wherever you go, whatever you do, Zaalbar will be with you."



"I'm honored to accept his vow."

"I guess this means you're stuck with me too.  Wherever Big Z goes, I'm going.  I almost lost him once - it's not going to happen again."

"I'm glad to have you aboard, Mission."

"So... I guess I still owe you one secret path into the Vulkar base.  That was the deal, wasn't it?  Don't worry, I know a backdoor into that scum den!"

"Good.  The sooner we get there the better."

She tells us what we already know (where it is, and there's a force field) and then...

"...I just hope the rancor monster isn't still there."



"There used to be a rancor monster that made its nest in that part of the sewers.  Pretty much eats anything it can get its claws on.  That thing is huge!  Luckily rancors aren't too bright.  I was able to sneak past it before, so I'm sure we'll figure something out.  That is, unless you want to change your mind."

"That's not really an option.  Let's go."



Time to have Carth take a bit of a breather, since the party limit is 3.  Also, I just remembered Mission gives you another customisable vibroblade when she joins, which is useful to have.



Through the next door is a group of Gamorreans.  Zaalbar gladly runs in to tear apart the Gamorreans who captured him.  Ah, it's so fun to have a Wookiee with you...



Not that he's unarmed for long.  Also, Pazaak cards, in case I decide to show you how that game works when we're back in the Upper City.



Plenty of rakghouls to keep cutting through.



Oh, hello.  There's one more to find somewhere around here...



A bit of small talk between Mission and Zaalbar.  The highlight:



Yeah.  I don't like pork either.



Wow, that's a lot of rakghouls.  Not that we can't deal with them.



It does require a couple antidotes, though.



And there's the other journal!  Time to take these back to the Undercity.



There we go, we're out.  That pretty much cleared the whole lower sewers.



Rukil: "Can it be true?  Is it possible that at long last the dream of my father and grandfather before him will be fulfilled?  I... I can hardly bear to look.  Hmmm... yes.  Yes!  Of course!  Now I understand - it all makes sense!  Now I see why the Promised Land has been so hard to find!  It is so obvious!  You have done a great thing, up-worlder - a selfless act that will bring great joy to all the people of this village!  I must take this to Gendar right away!"



Gendar: "What... no.  It can't be!  Are these real, Rukil?  Is this information accurate?"

Rukil: "I swear to you everything in these journals is true, Gendar.  The promised Land - I told you I would find it!"

Gendar: "The entrace is far from here, Rukil.  It will take us weeks to get there... perhaps even months.  And we will have to cross many rakghoul infested areas."

Rukil: "I do not deny the journey will be hard, Gendar.  But surely it is better than the miserable life we have here!"

Gendar: "Wise words, Rukil.  Our supplies are high right now - we could leave by nightfall!  I will tell the others to prepare for the journey."



Good luck, outcasts.  May the Force be with you.

Now, speaking of the Force, we have a Jedi to rescue.



"I picked them off the pocket of a Black Vulkar who had a little too much to drink in the cantina one night.  Here, let me get that energy field down for you."



Up we go!

Spoiler: Upper Sewers (click to show/hide)

Rakghouls fighting Gamorreans.  How did either of them get past the force field?



Ah, well.  That problem's easy to fix.



And there's plenty of problem-solving to do down here.



Hm.... not getting up that way.



...Oh.

Hello.

Now, there's a proper way to kill it without risk, but why do that...



...when you can just toss grenades at it until it dies?  Another, and less wasteful, way of doing it is getting its attention, then ducking through the door, which it can't get through, and killing it very slowly with blasters.



-WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO-



1.  Pick up this odour from a Bek who apparently didn't deal with the rancor properly.  The datapad tells you what you should do.



2. Sneak over, and put the odour into the pile of corpses, which already has a couple grenades in it.



3.  The Rancor eats the grenade, which blows up inside it.

Note that I had no idea what you were supposed to do the first time I played this game, and I've been using the grenade volley ever since.  It's certainly a lot more fun.





Two Vulkar guards stand between us and the base.  Easily dealt with.

Next part coming later, probably not too long from now.

[Judas Maccabeus]

Gutting the Vulkars

Spoiler: Vulkar Base (click to show/hide)

Alright, we're in.



No need for a pretence of stealth - let's just blast the place.



She tells us nothing useful.  Moving on!



Following her as she runs into a bunch of guards on the way out, in fact.  We were going to take them out anyway.



And here's the Vulkars' armoury.



There's some very nice stuff in here.



This is the way to the swoop garage.  These turrets will cut you to pieces if you try to go past them.  What's the answer?



This computer can shut them down, but we need a pass; trying to "slice" it with computer spikes only causes it to reject them.



This computer can override the other one, but it requires a lot of spikes (eight, for Hazar) to do so.  However, it does provide another way to speed along the solution.



There's a bunch of people standing around in the barracks.  Maybe they have something useful.



It's a tough fight, so the best way to deal with them is to electrocute them all.



One person survived, but he's easily killed.



There's actually two passes on the two lieutenants that had been in the room.  We only need one, though.



Once again, I brute force what is normally a puzzle and grab some things in a poisonous pool.  I think that's supposed to be chlorine for the water.



Alright, we're in.

Spoiler: Vulkar Swoop Garage (click to show/hide)

Right inside the garage proper, there's a small droid that can be activated to help fight.



Which is good, since there's a whole bunch of fighting as soon as you move onward.



This door leads to an optional little fight.  How to get through?



Roger roger... GERONIMO!

There's a nearby droid that helps with just that.



The optional fight is against an upgraded patrol droid who has a freezing gun.  It can be somewhat hard, especially if the droid freezes everybody, but this time it wasn't.



You do get a very nice reward for going through with it, though.



More Vulkars, and more things to grab.  The key...



...goes into this room, which is the one with the prototype accelerator in it.



Mission then takes a moment for more small talk.

"Scruffy?  What are you talking abut?  I hope you aren't suggesting I take a bath!"

"No, I'm not suggesting a bath.  I know how well that went over last time.  But your hair's getting all tangled.  And if you look close, you can see a few gray strands starting to poke through."

"You're making this up!  I groom every day!  My hair is not tangled, and it's not going gray!"

"She's got a point, Zaalbar.  You could use a good makeover."

"Don't worry, Big Z.  It's nothing I can't fix.  A little trim, a splash of coloring and you'll be as good as new.  Best looking Wookiee on the planet.  Maybe a nice suit..."

"You don't trim a Wookiee!  You don't color a Wookiee!  And you certainly don't dress a Wookiee!"

"I know Wookiees aren't into the whole clothing thing, but you could start a whole new trend!  You'd be on the cutting edge."

"Rargh!  Leave me alone!"

"Okay, okay.  Sheesh.  Try to offer some constructive criticism and this is the thanks I get?  Let's move on.  You can just stay naked and scruffy for all I care."



The other branch of the garage's complex leads to some work areas - including a nice workbench.



Time to use some of those upgrades we've found lying around.



After getting rid of a few more guards, and going through the door the game expects you to (it doesn't break anything if you use the wrong one, it just looks silly when you go through one and the game shows you entering through the other)...



"Brejik stole that engine from Gadon!  It was never yours to begin with!"



Kandon: "No - hold on a second.  I see you aren't wearing the Hidden Bek colors, so I'm guessing you aren't part of that feeble old man's gang.  You must be a freelance mercenary."

"You're right, I'm not one of the Beks.  My name's Hazar Denolo."

Kandon: "Instead of stealing the prototype for the Beks, why don't you come work for us?  The Black Vulkars could use someone like you."

"Forget it!  I know all about you Black Vulkars!"

Kandon: "Be smart; Gadon Thek is old news!  He's a blind fool in more ways than one!  Brejik is a visionary - soon he'll control the entire Lower City!  Don't shackle yourself to a losing team."

"Forget it - I'm not going to betray Gadon!"

Kandon: *Sigh* "I can see there's not much chance of convincing you to come work for us after all.  Most unfortunate."



...Bad idea.



That goes about as well as trying to kill us usually does.



This item is a very nice one to have, and I often end up having the main character wear it all the way through.  We'll see if that's what happens here, though.



More importantly, we got what we came here for.



Two more guards try to ambush us on the way out; they pay the price.



We've got a rakghoul serum to deliver.  But first:



Mission mentioned her brother earlier.  Let's see what that was all about.

"I want to talk to you about your brother."

"I... I was a little snappish when we last talked.  I'm sorry about that.  I get a little touchy when it comes to Griff.  It's kind of embarassing telling people about him."

"Embarassing?  Why?"

"It's complicated.  Griff wasn't the most popular guy, he had his faults.  But I still loved him, you know?  Sometimes people don't understand.  I never knew my parents, my brother always looked out for me.  He's the one who brought me to Taris.  I was just a kid, only five.  But I remember the trip - if you could call it that.  We were stuffed inside a packing crate in a star freighter's cargo hold with just enough food and water to make the trip.  Not exactly first class, you know?"

"You were stowaways?"



"He gambled.  And drank.  And he was always borrowing money for his latest get rich quick scheme.  But he had a good heart, you know?  He taught me how to survive.  He showed me how to slice into a computer's security system; how to get inside a locked building without the entrance codes, and how to spot a wealthy mark for a quick shell game."

"Pretty handy skills to have, Mission."

"Yeah, Griff did right by me.  I really miss him since he left.  I keep hoping he'll come back some day.  He promised me he would."

"Why did he leave?"

"He fell in with a bad crowd.  It's all Lena's fault.  She's the one who took him from me!  Just batted those long lashes at him and off he went!"

"Who's Lena?"

"I don't want to talk about Griff and Lena - just the thought of that space tramp makes my blood boil!  Subject's closed as far as I'm concerned!  If I'm going to be any help to you I can't be worrying about my brother running off with some intergalactic skank!  So, is there something else you need?"

I don't think intergalactic means what Mission thinks it means.  Unless Griff ran off with one of the Yuuzhan Vong, which would be worrying in and of itself.



Finally, the abridged version of giving the serum over to the doctor.

[Sensei]

Hey, why not post the maps? If only to show people how much work you're doing; some of these areas are pretty big.

[Servant Corps]

Note that I had no idea what you were supposed to do the first time I played this game, and I've been using the grenade volley ever since.  It's certainly a lot more fun.

I did that "duck into the door and shoot it at pistols". I didn't even think of throwing grenades. And, no, I don't think I ever used that order. "Snort, snort"? Ugh.

You should have worked for the Black Vulkar. For the hilarity, of course. Also, because I never was able to complete that quest line...

Also, is the Rukil's Promised Land real? Have we been to it even?

[CJ1145]

I certainly hope it's real...

Spoiler: I am not Phantom. Seriously, do NOT read this if you don't want a pretty major plot point spoiled. (click to show/hide)

Considering Malak glasses the entire surface of Taris, I hope they have somewhere to go.

[Judas Maccabeus]

Spoiler: I am not Phantom. Seriously, do NOT read this if you don't want a pretty major plot point spoiled. (click to show/hide)

Considering Malak glasses the entire surface of Taris, I hope they have somewhere to go.

Spoiler: Still a massive spoiler (click to show/hide)

They're pretty far underground, or at least as "underground" as one gets in a skyscraper planet like Taris.  It's at the very least possible that they survive... and they said it will take weeks to get there, so I doubt they arrive before the bombardment comes.

The game leaves it ambiguous as to whether the Promised Land exists, and whether the Outcasts make it there if it does.  Ah, well, at least we've given them a chance at a much better life.