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Author Topic: Pells And Nonlethal Sparring  (Read 607 times)

Laundreu

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Pells And Nonlethal Sparring
« on: November 27, 2006, 06:37:00 pm »

It doesn't really strike me as accurate to risk death and dismemberment when practicing swordsdwarfship with one's dwarven buddies.  Why not add a 'Pell' which is at heart a wooden or stone pole one practices various sword techniques on.  Perhaps at some point being able to make nonlethal weapons for sparring would be nice, too, so my dwarves will spar with wooden wasters instead of fine obsidian short swords and stop cleaving each other asunder and whatnot.
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Angela Christine

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Re: Pells And Nonlethal Sparring
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2006, 08:55:00 pm »

I don't know about pells . . . they are great for training you to fight opponents that are paralyzed, but goblins are usually moving around.    :p   Would they really be much use for training beyond "novice" level?


Good quality obsidian swords are freakishly dangerous though.  Right now I've got a guy who says he sustained "minor" injuries lately, he has a yellow cross, but he keeps passing out . . . I checked his wounds and his right hand is missing, but he's all, "Tis but a flesh wound!"    :roll:  Silly dwarfs.


Usually I keep all of my Fortress Guard and off-duty military unarmed (except marksdwarfs).  When squads go on and off duty it only takes a moment to change their weapon preferences from the (m)ilitary (w)eapons menu.  Wrestling injuries are usually minor, I've never had more than bruising from wrestlers sparring.  It also reduces injuries when Fortress Guards are ordered to issue a beating as punishment (if only the Hammerer could be disarmed!)

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Griz

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Re: Pells And Nonlethal Sparring
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2006, 02:37:00 am »

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Originally posted by Angela Christine:
Wrestling injuries are usually minor, I've never had more than bruising from wrestlers sparring. [/QB]

I've had wrestlers die of suffocation occasionally, but it's so rare that I never got to see what part was injured.

I leave everyone unarmed until I have a magma forge set up to mass-produce chain for everyone and plate for dedicated soldiers. some of them will still die, but by that point I usually have so many dwarves that any casualties can be replaced by one of the twenty masons or five mechanics.

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Tremain

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Re: Pells And Nonlethal Sparring
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2006, 02:30:00 pm »

I find training my dwarves as wrestlers/armor/shield until they gain a few stats and some skill with armor and shields and then switching to their weapon of choice rarely if ever leads to any sparring injuries, even with several dual wielding sword champs.
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Azeral

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Re: Pells And Nonlethal Sparring
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2006, 10:21:00 pm »

There's always the option of modifying wooden weaponry to allow a full range thereof, including wooden practice swords.

Then you can limit damage from a practice weapon to gray (though this could still cause issues with gray neck/head/eye damage, if I recall) or, if you wish to remove these problems completely at expense of just a little realism, cause practice weapons to do no damage. I suppose you could have them padded with cloth or such. From there, tossing in a little AI tweak so that people who begin sparring will first try to find practice weaponry shouldn't be too difficult.

This may be modest thread necromancy, but it's only been a week, so it's not too bad.

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Varil

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Re: Pells And Nonlethal Sparring
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2006, 03:22:00 am »

Blunt weapons could probably be improvised with some sort of sand bags on a handle. A spear would just need a pole with a rounded end to indicate the 'point'. It'd be good to try and come up with alternatives to wood, given that it is sometimes scarce.
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