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LegoLord

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Re: Help!? What happened?!
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2010, 09:42:40 am »

Guys, he said he found a single tile of water.  You have to dig out an aquifer tile to fill it with water.  If he had a single tile aquifer, then the tile he dug out would cease to supply.  If that tile wasn't the aquifer, then there'd be no way to know which one was the aquifer, since the only indication is "damp stone located" - which happens to any wall water touches any way - so there's nothing indicating a single-tile aquifer.

It's not a bug, he just dug out an aquifer tile and thought it had been occupied with water to begin with.
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Re: Help!? What happened?!
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2010, 12:09:48 pm »

Except for that he said that the tile he dug out was the only one that showed up as damp when he dug it out, and all aquifer tiles show damp regardless of whether they're adjacent to water or not.
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Re: Help!? What happened?!
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2010, 01:40:05 pm »

Man, I just avoid these issues by removing the aquifer tag from all the soil layers. They're just annoying.

Aquifer? What aquifer?
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Re: Help!? What happened?!
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2010, 02:02:36 pm »

Except for that he said that the tile he dug out was the only one that showed up as damp when he dug it out, and all aquifer tiles show damp regardless of whether they're adjacent to water or not.
When did he say that?  The only thing he said was that he'd already done a lot of digging on that layer, but he didn't say how close.

I still think that it's probably something that crept over from an adjacent biome or one that he didn't check with the F# keys before embark, and that he either missed or disabled the warning, or the site finder didn't pick it up because of a bug or the fact it didn't belong in the biome he was in.

I mean, I've seen biomes before where part has an aquifer and part doesn't.  The edge in those areas are certainly iffy; how hard can it be for a computer dwarven survey team to miss something 'small' like that?


Man, I just avoid these issues by removing the aquifer tag from all the soil layers. They're just annoying.

Aquifer? What aquifer?
I find that aquifers are actually pretty useful, given that dry soil farming is no more.  Just embark with some mountains and be careful when near the surface, and you shouldn't have any problems.

And taming aquifers for massive, FPS-killing megaconstructions is just another thing that makes Dwarf Fortress so Fun!
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Re: Help!? What happened?!
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2010, 05:20:15 pm »

I think Legolord's theory may be correct; I was alerted by damp stone, and assuming it was water I channelled down from above to check out the extent of the water. I saw just one tile of water - the one I'd channelled down into - which may have just been an aquifer-square which flooded after I dug it out.

However, I'm sure that I didn't see an aquifer warning, this doesn't mean that one wasn't shown, it just means I never saw one. I'm hesitant to label anything as a bug, as it's more likely that there's some complex (or not so) behaviour that I'm misunderstanding.

Related note: Is it me or are there aquifers EVERYWHERE now? I've been finding WAY more sites with ones since the recent big update.

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« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2010, 07:01:34 pm »

I've had stuff like this in the new version, I found large amounts of aquifer spaces with no aquifer, I move over a couple of tiles, an aquifer. I go somewhere else, no aquifer.

It seems aquifer layers aren't over the entire layer they are present anymore.
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