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[Meanmelter]

Also what's up with the whole "watch someone who has beated the vannila game"? You can beat the game with mods. They just change the gameplay to much better and add immersion, but they do not cause bugs in the plot.

Ohh. Ok then, good!

Edit: Game starts up with the Mod Manager, but when the main menu is loading up, it crashes.

Super Edit: I can not use my Unofficial Patch with this, so looks like I gotta uninstall the Unofficial Patch and get the latest one =/

[Deon]

Why do you think you can't? There's a .esp version of unofficial patch which works. Use BOSS and FOMM and launch through FOSE exe, and it should work perfectly.

[Meanmelter]

Why do you think you can't? There's a .esp version of unofficial patch which works. Use BOSS and FOMM and launch through FOSE exe, and it should work perfectly.

I am slow obviously. And BOSS doesn't detect the mods right. When I Delete the patch,it seems to also delete the Registry key so I gotta re-do everything. I copy-pasted the FO3 Folder just in case anything bad happened and it also said I hat to re-do everything so that fails too.

My life sucks.

[Deon]

Just make a clean install. FO3 -> DLC -> mods. It worked for me .

[Meanmelter]

Just make a clean install. FO3 -> DLC -> mods. It worked for me .

DLC?

[Deon]

Downloadable Content. Expansions like The Pitt and Point Lookout if you have them.

[Meanmelter]

Downloadable Content. Expansions like The Pitt and Point Lookout if you have them.

Did not have any originally, do I need them for the mods and stuff?

[Deon]

No, but the mods are compatible.

[Meanmelter]

No, but the mods are compatible.

Ok, this is what I am gunna do, after I install V1.7...
1.Download Fallout Mod Manager and Install.
2.Same with the Script Extender Program.
3.Download FOIP - Marts Mutant Mod and FWE
4.Pray it works and start FOMM and check MMM,FWE, and FO3 and click play.
Optional:Download FOOK

[Deon]

EDIT sorry.

I meant that you need this: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/download.php?id=68814
to play with MMM and FWE.

[Deon]

MMM install instructions:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

::: Install Instructions :::
------------------------------
0) Make sure you have installed the latest version of ArchiveInvalidation Invalidated!
1) Unzip the mod to your Fallout 3 Data directory -- make sure you have extracted the Meshes and Textures folders as well.
2) Use FOMM to select the following files to load (you MUST select both):

• Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

...
... (other mods)
...

• Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

3) Optionally, also select your choice of plugins, loading after the .esp:

• Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

...
... (other mods)
...

• Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
• Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp
[_] Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased increased Spawns.esp

• Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
• Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
• Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp
• Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
[_] Mart's Mutant Mod - Wounding Effects.esp
Make sure that:

    * All MMM modules load *after* Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
    * All the above MMMF3 .esps are loaded last in your load order.

4) Go inside somewhere without creatures and NPCs, rest for 4 days
5) Save your game, and load your game.
6) Enjoy!


::: FOIP Plugins

FOIP plugins have been updated for FOOK2, FWE and XFO support.

Then you install FWE

This is a load order in case you want to know how to arrange your files:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Fallout3.esm

CRAFT.esm
CALIBR.esm
<---------------------------.esms from all other mods (except follower and weather mods!)
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

<--------------------------- .esms from Follower and Weather mods

DarNifiedUIF3.esp

CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp

<--------------------------- .esps from other mods (except follower and weather mods!)

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.esp (Choose BS OR Non-BS Version) (OPTIONAL)
FO3 Wanderers Edition - OTHER OPTIONAL FWE MODULES


Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod OPTIONAL FILES

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp (FROM FOIP)

Ignore the files which you do not have.

[Meanmelter]

FOSE Loader comes up and says

'You have the Original retail version of Fallout. Please Patch it to the latest version at www.bethsoft.com'

I installed this patch if it helps http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_patch_1.7

Additional Information

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Mod load order report
! Warning: current load order template contains 19 duplicate entries

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
! This plugin depends on master 'fallout3.esm', which is loading after it in the load order
! This plugin depends on master 'fo3 wanderers edition - main file.esm', which is not loading
! This plugin depends on master 'mart's mutant mod.esm', which is not loading

Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.esp
! This plugin depends on master 'fallout3.esm', which is loading after it in the load order
! This plugin depends on master 'fo3 wanderers edition - main file.esm', which is not loading
! This plugin depends on master 'mart's mutant mod.esm', which is not loading
* This mod does not exist in the current template

Fallout3.esm
* The current load order of this mod does not match the current template
  Masterlist Information: $Revision$, $Date$, $LastChangedBy$

The order that the current template suggests is as follows:
fallout3.esm
mart's mutant mod - fwe master release.esp
mart's mutant mod - project beauty + fwe.esp

Edit: No Enclave Info on DF? Shall I make it?

Double Edit: The file was on READ ONLY. So I unchecked everything then it told me that one of the FOSE dll's are supposed to be in the main directory and not in the DATA folders, So I took all of FOSE's dll's and put them in the main directory, and it goes to the main menu screen, and crashes.

Further investigation involves the patch, Apparently the game loads up during the patch, and the patch cancels, so I gotta cancel this before the game loads up and hope the patch won't fail...

Triple Edit:Even if you close it the exact second it comes up, it fails.
I moved the fallout3.exe and Fallout3launcher.exe and it still  fails.
What version do you have?

[Deon]

Why do you even have project beauty stuff enabled? Did you download it? I would suggest trying without it.
I patched up to 1.7.

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
! This plugin depends on master 'fallout3.esm', which is loading after it in the load order
! This plugin depends on master 'fo3 wanderers edition - main file.esm', which is not loading
! This plugin depends on master 'mart's mutant mod.esm', which is not loading

Man your load orded is screwed up.

Boot FOMM and order the files how I told you earlier.

fallout3.esm should ALWAYS be first.

Spoiler: "load order" (click to show/hide)

Fallout3.esm

CRAFT.esm
CALIBR.esm
<---------------------------.esms from all other mods (except follower and weather mods!)
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

<--------------------------- .esms from Follower and Weather mods

DarNifiedUIF3.esp

CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp

<--------------------------- .esps from other mods (except follower and weather mods!)

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.esp (Choose BS OR Non-BS Version) (OPTIONAL)
FO3 Wanderers Edition - OTHER OPTIONAL FWE MODULES


Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod OPTIONAL FILES

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp (FROM FOIP)

[Meanmelter]

it came with the MMM file, if I uncheck it, it removes MMM.


Playing the game without FOSE Crashes.

[Deon]

>.>

You can simply delete unneeded .esp files and you should NEVER use compatibility patches when you don't have the mods it tries to be compatible with.

Just set the load order as I told you and it WILL work.

Playing the game without FOSE Crashes.

Sure because you try to load mods BEFORE you load the game resources.