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New channeling vs. old channeling - how do you feel?

The new channeling is covered in awesome sauce, the old channeling smelled real bad.
- 113 (19.3%)
The old channeling was the best, we don't need two ways to make ramps it is just silly.
- 245 (41.8%)
Old channeling was the best, new channeling is also the best.  Can't we all just get along?
- 132 (22.5%)
You people need to get on with your lives, it's not a big deal either way.
- 96 (16.4%)

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Zombie

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Re: POLL: New Channeling: Super Awesome or Super Dumb?
« Reply #390 on: May 12, 2010, 01:41:16 pm »

^Clearly dwarf fortress Dwarves are the product of Toady's mind, no more, no less. While we can argue about their relationship to dwarves of other established canons, however Dwarves act in 31.04 will be the canon until the next revision (except, perhaps, for unbreaded females).

Interesting. I was not aware it was part of dwarven tradition to bread the females. ;)
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Re: POLL: New Channeling: Super Awesome or Super Dumb?
« Reply #391 on: May 12, 2010, 02:18:32 pm »

^Clearly dwarf fortress Dwarves are the product of Toady's mind, no more, no less. While we can argue about their relationship to dwarves of other established canons, however Dwarves act in 31.04 will be the canon until the next revision (except, perhaps, for unbreaded females).

Interesting. I was not aware it was part of dwarven tradition to bread the females. ;)
Dip them in a light beer batter and deep fry them until they are nice and crispy.
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Re: POLL: New Channeling: Super Awesome or Super Dumb?
« Reply #392 on: May 12, 2010, 02:43:25 pm »

^Clearly dwarf fortress Dwarves are the product of Toady's mind, no more, no less. While we can argue about their relationship to dwarves of other established canons, however Dwarves act in 31.04 will be the canon until the next revision (except, perhaps, for unbreaded females).

Interesting. I was not aware it was part of dwarven tradition to bread the females. ;)
Dip them in a light beer batter and deep fry them until they are nice and crispy.

Sounds... sexy?
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Re: POLL: New Channeling: Super Awesome or Super Dumb?
« Reply #393 on: May 12, 2010, 02:49:00 pm »

^Clearly dwarf fortress Dwarves are the product of Toady's mind, no more, no less. While we can argue about their relationship to dwarves of other established canons, however Dwarves act in 31.04 will be the canon until the next revision (except, perhaps, for unbreaded females).

Interesting. I was not aware it was part of dwarven tradition to bread the females. ;)
Dip them in a light beer batter and deep fry them until they are nice and crispy.

Ah. Dwarf maiden sacrifices to Armok. Tasty snacks for his pleasure.
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Re: POLL: New Channeling: Super Awesome or Super Dumb?
« Reply #394 on: May 13, 2010, 06:32:52 pm »

NEW CHANNELING SUCKS!
Old channeling is better.
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Re: POLL: New Channeling: Super Awesome or Super Dumb?
« Reply #395 on: May 14, 2010, 12:40:22 am »

NEW CHANNELING SUCKS!
Old channeling is better.

I applaud your enthusiasm, yet question your methods.
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Re: POLL: New Channeling: Super Awesome or Super Dumb?
« Reply #396 on: May 14, 2010, 02:15:38 am »

Voted 4, but yea, I favor the old.
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Re: POLL: New Channeling: Super Awesome or Super Dumb?
« Reply #397 on: May 14, 2010, 03:37:22 am »

NEW CHANNELING SUCKS!
Old channeling is better.

I applaud your enthusiasm, yet question your methods.
Yeah, the polarizing OP was the prime reason why this thread has had so much bickering.
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Re: POLL: New Channeling: Super Awesome or Super Dumb?
« Reply #398 on: May 25, 2010, 09:51:35 pm »

NEW CHANNELING SUCKS!
Old channeling is better.

I applaud your enthusiasm, yet question your methods.
Yeah, the polarizing OP was the prime reason why this thread has had so much bickering.

Cus its true [/troll]
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Re: POLL: New Channeling: Super Awesome or Super Dumb?
« Reply #399 on: May 25, 2010, 11:51:04 pm »

The old was much better for dealing with magma and water. The new one's sort of nice for digging pits. They both seem rather useful, but for different situations.
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Re: POLL: New Channeling: Super Awesome or Super Dumb?
« Reply #400 on: May 26, 2010, 01:19:34 pm »

Functionally, in practice, the new channeling method works a ton better and has made a lot of my tasks much easier and safer than they were in 40d versions.

The only downside of course is that rope ladders still aren't in, so there's no way to get a stone out of a 1x1x1 hole with no ramps.
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Re: POLL: New Channeling: Super Awesome or Super Dumb?
« Reply #401 on: May 26, 2010, 06:41:11 pm »

Is it possible to construct an up stairs in the pit (with a corressponding down stair constructed on top of it), then to deconstruct the up stairs from above after getting out the stone? With no where to stand that isn't the up stairs in the pit, and the ability to work down on stairs, it seems like a possibility that a deconstruct up stairs would result in the dwarf standing 1 z level above it and de-constructing the up stairs from there.
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Re: POLL: New Channeling: Super Awesome or Super Dumb?
« Reply #402 on: June 07, 2010, 12:32:09 am »

So, I think they both work but should be seperate, in which case I have taken "Both are awesome"  meaning I like both but I want my old Channeling back,  the new channeling is definately great for large areas, but it looks real ugly when you need at least one ramp left for someone to get out, and you can't remove the ramps from uptop.

I miss my one tile wide channels

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and actually after reading the first post I'm glad that I picked the right one
« Last Edit: June 07, 2010, 12:33:45 am by Kaelem Gaen »
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Re: POLL: New Channeling: Super Awesome or Super Dumb?
« Reply #403 on: June 07, 2010, 04:55:27 am »

I like the new version, because it makes more complex projects much easier.  I no longer need to worry about dorfs getting stranded on a lone block in a sea of channelled space, so i can channel out large areas isntead of laboriously removing a few spots at a time.  The ramps are so easy and quick to remove anyway, so for my part I find this a much better system.
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Re: POLL: New Channeling: Super Awesome or Super Dumb?
« Reply #404 on: June 07, 2010, 05:42:37 am »

I like the new channeling because it makes it take a bit longer to build defenses.
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