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YES! (i would use it)

NO! (i would not use it, and i think it is pointless/unethical/gross etc.)

yes, but i would dissable it if it was an init option (all yes voters are assumed to be for an init option, only vote here if you think it should be included but you would not use it)

[Jimmy]

I really don't see why there's so much commentary on this topic. Most of the noisy people are just talking shit anyhow.

[lucusLoC]

@jimmy

your going to get that on any contentious topic unfortunately. the community is almost split evenly, so there are going to be quite a few people on either side who feel strongly about the issue.

@tenebrais

that is for a different poll, that i will perhaps pull together at a later time. i would prefer to let this one cool off for a bit though. as long as this one is still active another poo vote would be difficult even if the aim were different. this one has done a good job of telling us how evenly divided the community is on the topic i think. next one (in, say, a month) can attempt to delve into the motivations behind the split.

[The butcher]

NO f*** NO!I have enough trouble cleaning out elven blood and vomit let alone feces.

[Djohaal]

NO f*** NO!I have enough trouble cleaning out elven blood and vomit let alone feces.

Why I have a very subtle, warm and fuzzy feeling that people who post comments this long didn't even bother reading the original poster's ideas?

[PTTG??]

This is not what we're looking for:

[Zangi]

So its better to have a yes, yes and no vote stacked in favor of yes?

[DalGren]

2d forts? Are we still in 0.23?

And sorry, but even if your cultural taboos and repressions tell you to pretend feces don't exist, you can't pretend they don't when a cholera epidemic happens. Or some funnny e. Coli, or hepatitis B, so on.... If someone really wants to live by their taboos I pity them.

...
Many players still do pretty much 2D forts with a few z-levels if any. Not all, not me, but there are those who do, and it's not that bad a thing.
And just WHAT not wanting to have feces in a game has to do with disease outbreaks?
Is your idea of "people not liking feces" someone who poops in a corner and doesn't wash hands after wiping?

[Farce]

I think it would be interesting to require the management of wastes.

For one, it'd be another need you'd have to fill for your Dorfs - something more to do, I guess.

It could be handled via just a dumping labor - collecting/replacing and emptying chamberpots, like - or you could get fancy and build GREAT DWARVEN SEWERWORKS.  Possibly which could dump into a magmapit or something.  Alternatively your Dorf-toilets could flush with magma.  Fear the bidet.

If an area isn't properly sewerified/chamberpot-worker-attended, you could end up with dorfs throwing it out into the streets, like how it went in medieval cities (I think?  My history is kinda bad), thus giving you a dirty slum where diseases would breed and fester.  Dwarfy solution of periodically flooding the slum-tunnels out would be cool, too.

Alternatively, you could dig cesspits, and have to change out every so often due to filling up I guess.  Sorta like with garbage dumps, finding real estate that's close enough to be convenient but not close enough to be smelled might be an interesting challenge.  Uh.  I guess.  Alternatively you can of course drown your enemies in it like most are wont to.  Afterwards you could flood the countryside with it.  Fertilize your flowers, I guess.


I'd want it as an init option, though, definitely.  I'd also rather have bigger stuff in first, like improved hauling/minecarts/dumbwaiter-lifts-and-trams.

[DFPongo]

So its better to have a yes, yes and no vote stacked in favor of yes?

If the question was honest it would read.

Yes, I think its cool to be annoying.
No, lets grow up
and
No, but if you do add it make it an init option so I don't have to ever be bothered with it.

[EvilCartyen]

So its better to have a yes, yes and no vote stacked in favor of yes?

If the question was honest it would read.

Yes, I think its cool to be annoying.
No, lets grow up
and
No, but if you do add it make it an init option so I don't have to ever be bothered with it.

Right. Because the only reason people could have for wanting this is to annoy you personally.

Also, it's apparently non-adult behaviour to want a simulation to include one of the most important aspects of settlements through history - the problem with disposal of waste, possible contamination, disease and epidemics, etc. I clearly see that this is the Dwarf Fortress equivalent to putting your dick in someone's beer.

That doesn't mean the vote isn't laughably unscientific and manipulating, but you get my point. Why not grow up and stop painting everyone who thinks this is a fine idea as a 12 year old scat-fetischist AND have a decent poll one of these days? Not like we need another shouting competition about this, mind you, but it's a shame that half the people here believe more in shouting mindlessly than arguing.

[MrWiggles]

That is a valid point. Waste disposal has been a key issue with urban settlement.

[Pillow_Killer]

This is a game. A game supposed to be fun. Having to spend my gametme building infrastructure so the shit can flow does not fits into my definition of fun. Go gnaw on your feces somewhere else.

[EvilCartyen]

This is a game. A game supposed to be fun. Having to spend my gametme building infrastructure so the shit can flow does not fits into my definition of fun. Go gnaw on your feces somewhere else.

This is a simulation game. A simulation game cannot arguably simulate history and life in a halfway decent manner, if it pretends that NO CREATURES PRODUCE WASTE.

Also, it happens to fit my definition of fun. So I guess that cancels out your feeling of anti-fun. Go play your simplified simulations elsewhere?

[Pillow_Killer]

This game also have no reproductive organs. Oh, and creatures breed via magical spores. This is also a fantasy strategy game, not a real life simulation of flowing shit. Go to the toilet and play with your so desired liquid there.

[Vester]

How about you tone down your hostility levels?