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YES! (i would use it)

NO! (i would not use it, and i think it is pointless/unethical/gross etc.)

yes, but i would dissable it if it was an init option (all yes voters are assumed to be for an init option, only vote here if you think it should be included but you would not use it)

[Urist McDepravity]

we don't get our beautiful forums spread with idiots

I can't understand why people worry so much about 'idiots' in a game, which is too hard to average player (and definitely TOO hard for idiot), and is notorious for its learning curve and complex textual interface. Seriously, you believe that textual representation of feces produced by @'s is what every idiot wants?

Only real threat to community is graphics.

[Footkerchief]

I say yes as long as we don't get our beautiful forums spread with idiots saying

"hahaha your game has poo in it!!thats funny!i want to drown my dwarfs in poo poo!"

This is no worse than what already appears on the forums.

Yeah, at least it would be mildly funny for a while, unlike the tired catchphrases that pass for humor around here.

[forsaken1111]

we don't get our beautiful forums spread with idiots

I can't understand why people worry so much about 'idiots' in a game, which is too hard to average player (and definitely TOO hard for idiot), and is notorious for its learning curve and complex textual interface. Seriously, you believe that textual representation of feces produced by @'s is what every idiot wants?

Only real threat to community is graphics.

They worry because an idiot doesn't have to play the game to troll the forums. Not that I think this worry has any merit, just explaining why I think it exists.

[Vester]

we don't get our beautiful forums spread with idiots

I can't understand why people worry so much about 'idiots' in a game, which is too hard to average player (and definitely TOO hard for idiot), and is notorious for its learning curve and complex textual interface. Seriously, you believe that textual representation of feces produced by @'s is what every idiot wants?

Only real threat to community is graphics.

How are graphics credit to team threat to community?

[KaelGotDwarves]

I think as we have recently seen, the only real threat to the community are schisms in regard to utilities and programs/games related to DF.

The rest of it is impotent internet nerdrage.

[forsaken1111]

I think as we have recently seen, the only real threat to the community are schisms in regard to utilities and programs/games related to DF.

The rest of it is impotent internet nerdrage.

I'm pretty sure the other stuff is equally impotent as well.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

How are graphics credit to team threat to community?

he's saying that the lack of graphics is an obstacle for those of mischievous intentions, a filter that only allows people of pure heart into the game and into this community.

[NW_Kohaku]

Then I hate to break it to you, but DF is already a graphics-based game.

Everything in the interface is made up of graphic tiles taken from a modifiable .bmp or similar graphic file, which people (seemingly including Toady) want to pretend still let it be ASCII text, even though it is simply being arbitrarily confined down to 255 characters, and many aspects of the game's interface hardcoded to specific cells, with the exception of creatures, which get a wider range of graphics options.  (Give us full graphical moddability already, Toady!)

There are already some fairly elaborate graphical interface options available, not the least of which being Stonesense.

In short, we have graphics, and have had it for a while, and the sky didn't fall then, either.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

some of us enjoy acii, we're using graphics for logistic reasons, but aesthetically, we enjoy it this way

(Give us a proper digestive tract already, Toady!)
i mean, everybody has their priorities, mine isn't feces, but these are well above further graphical modability. it's up to toady really, not to *you*

[NW_Kohaku]

some of us enjoy acii, we're using graphics for logistic reasons, but aesthetically, we enjoy it this way

Which was exactly my point.  People pretend it's an ASCII game just because they want to, but it really isn't.

(Give us a proper digestive tract already, Toady!)
i mean, everybody has their priorities, mine isn't feces, but these are well above further graphical modability. it's up to toady really, not to *you*

Actually, the entire point of the ESV was to let the players have some say over what was or was not a priority, if I'm not mistaken.  If, after all, you did not believe you had any say in it, would you be participating in a suggestions thread for any reason other than possibly simple love of arguing with people for reasons you believe are pointless over the Internet?

[Vester]

Well, there is some interesting discussion going on.

[melon4242]

Voted ! not ok .... except diapers are implemented  ... no waste time fece implementation, and a new branch of production/cleaning

[Vester]

Voted ! not ok .... except diapers are implemented  ... no waste time fece implementation, and a new branch of production/cleaning

... wat?

Well, diapers would be a part of it that hasn't been mentioned in this thread at all.

We dropped the ball on that one, people.

[rex mortis]

I voted yes. Accumulation of waste should be a major obstacle to overcome when an enemy army sieges my fort. When I cannot just dump it outside.

And I want to build proper, functional sewers.