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« Reply #720 on: August 01, 2012, 02:18:29 pm »

Most people tend to just spam A because it's easier than the gymnastics your hand has to carry out in order to do a decent combo if you're using the Wiimote.
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« Reply #721 on: August 01, 2012, 02:26:20 pm »

Most people tend to just spam A because it's easier than the gymnastics your hand has to carry out in order to do a decent combo if you're using the Wiimote.

...People actually use the Wiimote to play? I figure everyone who plays makes use of the classic controller they released specifically because of Monster Hunter.
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« Reply #722 on: August 01, 2012, 02:26:30 pm »

Hrm. If I'm doing my math properly, at purple sharpness, hitting the legs of Ala, using a rather conservative type modifier of 10% and assuming that all hits are with a blade, Alatreon Star should be hitting for 9 damage per hit.
In a similar situation, utilizing a type modifier of 110%, hitting with the sweet spot and accounting for affinity, Anguish (G) hits for 87.  (9.6x.)

All things identical, hitting Rathalos in the head, Alatreon Star should be doing about 37 with Anguish (G) doing 265. (7.2x)

SnS damage should be understated by approximately 1 for Ala and 3 for Rathalos, but I don't recall which combo is being brought up at the moment so I can't get the exact rates per hit. Similarly, Anguish (G) might be off slightly since I never used it and might be basing it off the wrong attack.

(The +1/+3 values change the ratio to 8.7 and 6.6.)

Edit: Oh thanks, Knirisk, just render my post completely useless.  :P
« Last Edit: August 01, 2012, 02:28:18 pm by Aoi »
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« Reply #723 on: August 01, 2012, 02:29:00 pm »

...People actually use the Wiimote to play? I figure everyone who plays makes use of the classic controller they released specifically because of Monster Hunter.

I did. And I did quite well with it.
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« Reply #724 on: August 01, 2012, 02:30:11 pm »

Most people tend to just spam A because it's easier than the gymnastics your hand has to carry out in order to do a decent combo if you're using the Wiimote.

I use the classic controller. :P Anyway, it's fairly easy to get a combo off even with out a revolving slice. I think it's some like just hold up and tap A a bunch of times. The revolving slice is like + or -, so it's not even completely comfortable to do on the classic controller.

Anyway, the SnS has other failings, such as underwater combat. Which sucks, completely, because the almost-never-get-hurt portion of the SnS gets taken away. :-\

Edit: Oh thanks, Knirisk, just render my post completely useless.  :P

Sorry. :P I'd been working on these calculations for some time.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2012, 02:33:55 pm by Knirisk »
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« Reply #725 on: August 01, 2012, 02:32:22 pm »

There's also the fact that the SnS combo is vastly reduced underwater. It goes down to a maximum of three attacks or something.
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« Reply #726 on: August 01, 2012, 02:37:06 pm »

Most people tend to just spam A because it's easier than the gymnastics your hand has to carry out in order to do a decent combo if you're using the Wiimote.

...People actually use the Wiimote to play? I figure everyone who plays makes use of the classic controller they released specifically because of Monster Hunter.

I use the Wiimote, actually.
Got into the habit of it when playing arena with my friend since we only had one classic controller, and now I can't use the classic controller at all for it.
Besides, with a hammer it doesn't matter too much and it's actually a bit more comfortable.

There's also the fact that the SnS combo is vastly reduced underwater. It goes down to a maximum of three attacks or something.

Let me just say, every weapon besides lance is garbage underwater anyway.
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« Reply #727 on: August 01, 2012, 02:50:01 pm »

That is so incredibly untrue it actually causes me physical pain.

Just because Lance is good underwater doesn't mean it's the only thing that doesn't suck. Literally every weapon except SnS and switch axe are fine underwater.
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« Reply #728 on: August 01, 2012, 02:50:19 pm »

Let me just say, every weapon besides lance is garbage underwater anyway.

I seem to recall bowgunning underwater worked out fine. =P
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« Reply #729 on: August 01, 2012, 02:58:36 pm »

That is so incredibly untrue it actually causes me physical pain.

Just because Lance is good underwater doesn't mean it's the only thing that doesn't suck. Literally every weapon except SnS and switch axe are fine underwater.

Well, I guess that's just how it feels to me. The difficulty of getting close to a monster underwater before it decides to swim off somewhere and make you have to reposition is like an endless chase. Alright, my bad then, I guess I just really suck underwater and it's a personal problem.

Let me just say, every weapon besides lance is garbage underwater anyway.

I seem to recall bowgunning underwater worked out fine. =P

I always forget about bowgun for some reason. The range does get cut though.
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« Reply #730 on: August 01, 2012, 04:54:49 pm »

I use the revolving slice. I also use the right-stick attacking controls like a proper MH player though. :P I also specialize in SnS, though.

Strolling casually out of the way of attacks and bringing stuff down without taking any damage is the most fun.

I agree on them being much more terrible underwater though. I should know, I killed about 25 offline Lagi with them...
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« Reply #731 on: August 01, 2012, 04:58:45 pm »

... the + slash can be used as part of the combo? I didn't know that. I thought it reset the animation if you switched between it and A.
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« Reply #732 on: August 01, 2012, 06:31:36 pm »

Anyway for those that are interested I should be online between 12pm and 1pm PST on Thursday.
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« Reply #733 on: August 02, 2012, 02:25:12 pm »

Heading on now. Might be in offline mode so just say something in Steam chat.
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« Reply #734 on: August 05, 2012, 12:22:53 pm »

Most likely I'll be available to play Monday through Thursday starting between 12pm-1pm PST and for at least a few hours.
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