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Author Topic: Monster Hunter 3, anyone?  (Read 94552 times)

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Re: Monster Hunter 3, anyone?
« Reply #690 on: July 30, 2012, 02:09:01 pm »

If anyone is interested in playing I should be available in an hour or two.
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« Reply #691 on: July 31, 2012, 12:26:10 pm »

I'll be on today, probably starting between 12pm-1pm PST.
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« Reply #692 on: July 31, 2012, 12:40:37 pm »

FYI, resistance is basically useless.

The order of importance of things on armour, if I recall correctly, goes

Skills -> Armour -> Looks -> Resistance

The most damage you'll get or mitigate from resistance is less than one herb's worth - basically nothing.

Also, Rathian is all terrible all the time by itself because the only useful skill it gives, Earplugs, isn't really a big deal until high rank at which point you can make a Lagiacrus/Ceadeus mix to get (High Grade) Earplugs and Sharpness+1 which is basically all you'll need, barring a few specific exceptions.(I'm looking at you, GS.)
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« Reply #693 on: July 31, 2012, 01:13:02 pm »

FYI, resistance is basically useless.


Having good resistances can be useful if you expect to get hit by boss attacks - many boss attacks are elemental and can inflict blights. If you have high resistances to the element, you'll take (slightly) less damage and there's a significantly reduced chance of getting a severe blight or of getting a blight at all. Severe blights can be pretty nasty, so you may want to wear appropriate armour to reduce the risk...

Worst blights:, in my opinion: Fire (inflicted by any fire attack, most notably Queropeco, Rathian and Rathalos) and Thunder (inflicted by Lagiacrus's thunder-bolts and electric shield). Fire saps your health, thunder means you get stunned/dizzy much more easily (i.e. you will get dizzy after one big hit, rather than two consecutive big hits). These are also the easiest to get hit by, in my opinion. Water and Ice blights can be ignored, most of the time.
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« Reply #694 on: July 31, 2012, 01:17:34 pm »

25 resistance still won't make much of a difference? I can understand stuff in the 5-10 range not doing much.

Actually... Lagiacrus armor has a lot of good skills, and I already have two lagi plates. Element Up is great for S&S and sharpness is great all around. Probably want to grab that over Rathian.

Also, I'm considering picking up lances as a secondary weapon since they seem pretty fun.
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« Reply #695 on: July 31, 2012, 01:45:12 pm »

Fire can easily be gotten rid of by rolling. Lightning is caused by exactly two monsters - it's really not likely you'll run into it. Ice makes your stamina go down faster I think? Only a big deal for GS and hammer and it only comes from two monsters anyway. Water makes stamina regen slower - see Ice.

The easy solution is to prepare for fighting whatever by bringing the correct blight-cure berries instead of gimping your ability to fight by bringing along armour with terribad skills.
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« Reply #696 on: July 31, 2012, 06:13:40 pm »

Just going to second that most experienced players do agree, "resistance is useless".

One of the reasons Rathian armor is so looked down upon, apart from just being stupidly common, is that it's not a very good armor set at all.

1. Fire resistance means little to nothing. If you're getting hit with fire based attack so often you're considering picking up an armor to counter it, the problem is you and you need to work on not running face first into fireballs. Honestly, when it really comes down to it even defense shouldn't be something you worry about much, as avoiding attacks is always more important than tanking them. But, at least defense applies to every monster and attack..

2. HP. Having more HP is great, but when there are so many things you can just eat for HP (scroll down) it's more or less a waste of a skill.

3. Earplugs. These are actually good, nice skill to have. Problem is, only GS and Hammer can really make significant use of the rather small time window that ignoring a roar presents you. For every other weapon, it's pretty much a waste. Additionally, if you get the timing down with Evasion, you can actually roll through roars without earplugs, so there's also that.

Lagiacrus armor is totally legit, however.

I would agree - tentatively. Resistances aren't totally useless and will save your ass when you get hit by that almost-one-shot kill from Rathalos or Lagiacrus' lightning storm. Not to mention that some later bosses have some seriously powerful elemental attacks that are extremely hard to avoid as well.

As to the judgment of Rathian, I agree completely. Rathian is, for the most part, useless. If you need fire resistance, I would suggest the Qurupeco armor, which, in addition to providing fire resistance, also provides Evasion +1 and increases the effectiveness of all healing done. It's just a great set. With Evasion +1, you can pretty much have Earplugs, so long as you get the timing down. I think. I recall that Evasion +2 didn't have too many extra invincible frames of animation over Evasion +1.
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« Reply #697 on: July 31, 2012, 07:29:20 pm »

My brother is very good at the game oddly enough.

His weapons are the Lance, Big Sword, Hammer, and Katana.

Mine are Sword and Shield... (I tried Lance but I am only good with sword and shield... which tends to be a poor weapon in these games)
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« Reply #698 on: July 31, 2012, 09:40:08 pm »

Mine are Sword and Shield... (I tried Lance but I am only good with sword and shield... which tends to be a poor weapon in these games)

Go para. Due to the way status ailments work, SnS is the best for setting them off by far. (Well. Bowgun, possibly, but that's kind of a special case.) If you're aiming to do straight up damage with SnS then... no.)
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« Reply #699 on: July 31, 2012, 10:27:17 pm »

Mine are Sword and Shield... (I tried Lance but I am only good with sword and shield... which tends to be a poor weapon in these games)

Go para. Due to the way status ailments work, SnS is the best for setting them off by far. (Well. Bowgun, possibly, but that's kind of a special case.) If you're aiming to do straight up damage with SnS then... no.)

The problem is that for any monster that really counts... you are better with something else.
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« Reply #700 on: July 31, 2012, 10:42:42 pm »

Uh I'm dropping this here since I'm lacking a better place to put it.

Capcom if you don't localize this!! *shakes fist*
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« Reply #701 on: July 31, 2012, 11:23:17 pm »

I've seen people do magic with the sword & board. Leaves me wondering how to do it. I'm a hammer/switchie kind of guy otherwise, you'll usually find me dishing out paralysis nowadays. Can't say I'm great about dodging, but I'm usually not the guy getting bowled back to the base camp.

Also, Logical and I went and bopped the Barroth a new one. Hurray, progress.

If you need to do magic with the SnS, the evasion skill is great. If your timing is good enough, you'll be pretty much invulnerable with the SnS's mobility. Honestly? For an easy weapon to master, the SnS is dependable and reliable if you've got the right element. The more powerful weapons take more to master before they become effective.
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« Reply #702 on: July 31, 2012, 11:29:25 pm »

I've seen people do magic with the sword & board. Leaves me wondering how to do it. I'm a hammer/switchie kind of guy otherwise, you'll usually find me dishing out paralysis nowadays. Can't say I'm great about dodging, but I'm usually not the guy getting bowled back to the base camp.

Also, Logical and I went and bopped the Barroth a new one. Hurray, progress.

If you need to do magic with the SnS, the evasion skill is great. If your timing is good enough, you'll be pretty much invulnerable with the SnS's mobility. Honestly? For an easy weapon to master, the SnS is dependable and reliable if you've got the right element. The more powerful weapons take more to master before they become effective.

I've watched my Brother play. The issue is that well...

Lance is to hit vitals, Large sword for huge swaths of damage, Mace for spins of damage, Katana for between.

The Sword and Shield is defensive... but for the toughest missions in the game that defensiveness is a detriment.
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« Reply #703 on: July 31, 2012, 11:43:06 pm »

If you need to do magic with the SnS, the evasion skill is great. If your timing is good enough, you'll be pretty much invulnerable with the SnS's mobility. Honestly? For an easy weapon to master, the SnS is dependable and reliable if you've got the right element. The more powerful weapons take more to master before they become effective.

I've watched my Brother play. The issue is that well...

Lance is to hit vitals, Large sword for huge swaths of damage, Mace for spins of damage, Katana for between.

The Sword and Shield is defensive... but for the toughest missions in the game that defensiveness is a detriment.

I sure as hell don't play Sword and Shield as defensive. I go pretty balls to the wall. I act as if I don't even have a shield in many cases. Lance is the defensive weapon. I mean, it has a counterattack, even. The thing with the SnS is that while you have a shield, you don't need to use it very often because you can reposition easily. In addition, you can drink potions with your SnS out. The other weapons require a lot more precision because you're punished more for mistakes.
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« Reply #704 on: August 01, 2012, 12:56:57 am »

SnS is much more tactical. It does pretty miserable damage and has short range, but it hits fast, allows item use when drawn, and is easy to evade/block with.

Running sleep/para with it just further compounds it. It gets kind of tiresome when you're playing with an inexperienced group and when you finally put Jho to sleep, somebody smacks it instead of dropping a pile of bombs on it... Or if it gets paralyzed and nobody can hit high enough to chop his tail off. =P
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