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[Renault]

Not everyone fantasizes about people they know or are attracted to.  I don't, it feels very violating.

You know, thats sort of a relief to read. I mean, I wouldnt seriously judge anyone for their private thoughts (Lord knows what a hypocrite that would make me ) but its still sort of creepy to think everyone does it. Sort of makes the whole friendship thing kind of...weird.

[Bandages]

Not everyone fantasizes about people they know or are attracted to.  I don't, it feels very violating.

+1

[Master Catfish]

Agreed. 

[Pathos]

Not everyone fantasizes about people they know or are attracted to.  I don't, it feels very violating.

I ask, first.

EDIT: Hey, Renault...?

[Renault]

Not everyone fantasizes about people they know or are attracted to.  I don't, it feels very violating.

I ask, first.

EDIT: Hey, Renault...?

....huh?

[bjlong]

You may or may not have blown it.

The guy started getting upset, yes? This is a good sign. Trust me, I've seen this play out too many times--the creeper getting upset is always a good start. Now we get to the heart of the matter--will he continue to stalk you?

Don't block him, or un-friend him, or flee at his shadow. But do notice where and when he shows up, and only be as accommodating as absolutely necessary. If he's the same or more desperate, disappear as much as possible from his life. The being-a-bitch routine doesn't work if you've lost your nerve before. But obviously staying away from him will get the message through. It'll hurt him a whole lot more, though.

If he lets go for the most part, give him ~2 to 5 weeks to get his head on straight. Then feel free to hang out with him in a large group.

For future reference, losing your nerve is the worst thing you can do when someone's not listening, especially in relationship business. Only when your message has been hammered out, loud and clear, should you attempt to console/listen/cook dinner for/do a barrel roll/fistfight/compromise with the other guy, and expect him to do the same.

[psyn]

Not everyone fantasizes about people they know or are attracted to.  I don't, it feels very violating.

+2. Keep your weird generalizations for yourself.

I don't care how 'violating' it seems -- derogatory is probably a better word. If you respect someone intellectually, you should not be fantasizing about them naked unless they return the favor in kind. It's not even a religious issue -- I've been to church 3 times in my whole life -- it's a moral one.

[Renault]

This probably isnt the best venue to discuss whether or not people fap to their friends, sadly. I guess its fairly interesting, but I get the feeling its not quite up to the high moral standards of this forum. I just prefer to think some do and some dont--and that ambiguity is enough for me to not think more about it, heh.

And bjlong, I know, I shouldnt have lost my nerve like that. It wasn't good, but I really didnt mean to do so. It just sort of happened. I'm not really good with this sort of thing. Hell, I turned to the internet for advice, so you know I'm not good at this, heh.
As for blocking him, that doesnt work. He just creates a bunch of accounts in other names and messages from those, asking why I blocked him. It was embarassing. Now I just leave an eternal away message >.>

[Grakelin]

From past experience, I don't think this forum has the ability to distance themselves emotionally and intellectually from any issue to actually go into the morality of fantasizing or not fantasizing about other people while fapping. I am curious as to what the people who are strongly against it actually think about, though. Movie stars, models? Those are actually people too.

It's crazy to assume that every guy out there is having wet dreams about you. There are many women I wouldn't dream (literally!) of fantasizing about. My housemates, for example.

[Vester]

It's crazy to assume that every guy out there is having wet dreams about you. There are many women I wouldn't dream (literally!) of fantasizing about. My housemates, for example.

It's not just crazy, it's egotistical.

[Dwarf]

Arrogant? Egomanic?

Not everyone fantasizes about people they know or are attracted to.  I don't, it feels very violating.

+1

Erm... do not approve

[psyn]

From past experience, I don't think this forum has the ability to distance themselves emotionally and intellectually from any issue to actually go into the morality of fantasizing or not fantasizing about other people while fapping. I am curious as to what the people who are strongly against it actually think about, though. Movie stars, models? Those are actually people too.

Debate semantics and morality all you want. Personally, I only do so with my peers -- not figureheads on a forum. But don't make a stupid statement that all men's dreams are of ever-shifting processions of naked associates drifting amidst a cloud of arousal. It has no truth in reality except for in the mind of lowly teenagers.

[Rashilul]

Not everyone fantasizes about people they know or are attracted to.  I don't, it feels very violating.

Yeah, I'm thinking most men on Bay12 are way too... nice to do anything like that. _{By that, I  mean wimpy}

[Grakelin]

Did you really just quote my comment about a belief of people lacking the ability to distance themselves emotionally from an issue by responding to the issue in an emotional manner?

Poor form. Try answering the question I posited instead. What is your alternative? Contrary to popular belief, porn stars and celebrities are people, too. Power to you if you're part of the less than 1% of men who don't do it at all.

[psyn]

Did you really just quote my comment about a belief of people lacking the ability to distance themselves emotionally from an issue by responding to the issue in an emotional manner?

I didn't respond to the issue. I addressed Jude's statement.

Poor form. Try answering the question I posited instead. What is your alternative? Contrary to popular belief, porn stars and celebrities are people, too. Power to you if you're part of the less than 1% of men who don't do it at all.

I have my thoughts, and you have yours. I have no intention of discussing this. I only debate morality with people I know and respect. It's a waste of time otherwise. I am sure you can create a lively discussion by starting a topic though.