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Pump Magma Closer to the Surface or Build Deep?

Magma Up!  I need my Sun Berries!
- 46 (32.6%)
Dwarves Down.  Real Dwarves don't need sunlight!
- 58 (41.1%)
Magma?  Meh.  Overrated.  I'll just cut more trees.
- 14 (9.9%)
I use burrows.  Why engineer the terrain when you can engineer the workforce?
- 23 (16.3%)

Total Members Voted: 141

Voting closed: April 19, 2010, 06:16:05 pm


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Re: Magma Up or Dwarves Down?
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2010, 08:58:04 am »

I'm just going to keep embarking on volcanoes and getting the old-school vertical magma pipes.

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Re: Magma Up or Dwarves Down?
« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2010, 09:10:12 am »

I like digging down myself, unless as said before there's a magma pipe on the site (I do miss the irregular shape of the old magma pipes though).

One thing I'd like to know though; Does finding adamantine still trigger the arrival of the king in a few months, dressed as a peasant? I like having my king turn up (eventually) with a full entourage, and I don't really want to hold off from finding magma until the king arrives. Nearly every time I've found a magma sea, several stacks of adamantine are immediately visible, but I've not let the game play any further in case the peasant king turns up :p
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Re: Magma Up or Dwarves Down?
« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2010, 09:28:43 am »

Why is there not an option for both?

Dig deep underground fortresses. And flood the surface with magma out of spite.
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Re: Magma Up or Dwarves Down?
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2010, 09:48:15 am »

Dig deep underground fortresses. And flood the surface with magma out of spite.

If I flood the surface how do I reach my furnaces and forges up in the mountains where I'm pumping the magma to?

And what do I do if it runs down pipe to my outdoor farms with underfloor heating one level above the magma sea?

You just haven't thought this through :)
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Re: Magma Up or Dwarves Down?
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2010, 10:45:41 am »

There's still sites with volcanoes, you know. And magma makes metal and glass production so cheap and easy that they're almost throwaway commodities, although this is somewhat balanced by the threat from the creatures that dwell in it.
I'd say you should take a third option and learn to do without magma, treating it as a serendipitous gift if you do find it.
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Re: Magma Up or Dwarves Down?
« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2010, 11:25:37 am »

I guess I got lucky, the one time I found the magma, it was a pipe that opened up in the second underground level.  My plan was to pipe it to the surface to make a moat and have !!lignite bins!! surrounding my entrance, but Fun ended my fort.
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Re: Magma Up or Dwarves Down?
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2010, 11:36:06 am »

Haven't played DF 2010 much yet, having too much fun on my 40d fortress, but I say magma up. Not necessarily the full 120 z-levels, but enough to put your forges and furnaces within reach of the rest of your fortress, maybe 80-100 z-levels. Between that and the use of burrows to create a sub-fort centered on the forge area, it shouldn't be too bad; have metal- and glass-workers live by their forges, with haulers keeping them supplied from the surface. Would require a lot of waterwheels in a perpetual motion system, but could be done.
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Re: Magma Up or Dwarves Down?
« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2010, 12:01:22 am »

It's a shame I don't already know this, but which materials in DF2010 are magma-safe and which parts of the pumping and storage infrastructure need to be magma-safe?
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Re: Magma Up or Dwarves Down?
« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2010, 12:07:48 am »

The magma will go where I will it to, and the only direction the dwarves are digging is downward.
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