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[Djohaal]

Aaaaand a world destroyer is taking a merry stroll through my galaxy leaving a huge gash on it.
On the upside it'll pass right through the zuul homeworld. 

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[forsaken1111]

Gate sections have a massive amount of hitpoints if you didn't know, that may have helped. As for the tech tree, you will always have the basic technologies which are quite effective. I guess it just comes down to personal taste.

[yamo]

The big catch with the random tech tree (and my pet peeve) is that it's randomness is a bit unpredictable sometimes.

ummmm....

[Cheese]

I find Rorscach's SotS wiki to be quite helpful with unknown menaces. It has tactics for defeating most of them.

In my recent game, after a while of hoping for breakthroughs I finally managed to get Dreadnoughts. I'm now the first owner of a Dreadnought in the galaxy . Tearing through hiver cruisers with heavy beam lasers is such fun  .

[Djohaal]

Sadly the world destroyer was badass enough to kill a whole fleet of blazers I assembled specifically to try stopping it. Oh well.
The biggest problem is that I'm flanked by two allied liir empires (which are quite powerful), what means I'll need to be very swift if I ever declare war on them.
Also one upside to the complete-but-more-expensive-tech-tree. Zuul ships started to raep me with heavy stormers. Researched deflectors. This would be probably impossible to counter given that hivers tend to not have deflectors available.

[Shades]

Is anyone here any good at playing with the Zuul and willing to provide some tips. I know it's all about endless attacks and expansion but I just don't seem to get to the point where everything feels like it's kicking into the endless cascade of carnage. I seem to end up with fewer, and obviously weaker, ships than those around me.

I'm pretty much okay with the other races just the Zuul I can't get a handle on.

[forsaken1111]

Research mega strip mining, overharvest your planets and build a ridiculous number of ships. Take slaves when you can (honestly its a pain in the ass) and keep killing anything you can. I've only played them a few times successfully really but they're fun.

[Shades]

Research mega strip mining, overharvest your planets and build a ridiculous number of ships. Take slaves when you can (honestly its a pain in the ass) and keep killing anything you can. I've only played them a few times successfully really but they're fun.

Any tips on taking slaves? Currently I try to crush a planets defences then pull slave ships in after that is done other wise they don't seem to survive. But even this only gets me a very small amount of production bonus.

I suppose if I managed to get good stealth with them that would be easier.

Maintaining wormholes is effort too

[forsaken1111]

Well a start is using the scavenger cruisers, their disks gather like 2 million slaves each. 

[Djohaal]

I think you can avoid harming the planet at all if you set your ships to not bombard it (that big bomb icon on the top left of fleet settings).

Stealth slaver ships sound like a good idea too though.

It amazes me to no end how much pounding zuul ships can take, considering they are made of.. well... crap.

Also what's your favourite strategy to take out defence platforms? Usually I send 3 blazer cruisers looping around the planet on the opposite direction of the platforms's orbiting, while the rest of the fleet bombards the surface back to stone age.

[forsaken1111]

I use heavy missile bombardments.

Hell when I play as zuul I research missile tech as much as I can because their ships are extremely fast. Outrange = win

[Djohaal]

Usually they do that as the AI with me too. That's until the Aegis Roach comes up into the battlefield (DE with firecontrol + point defence mission module with point defence lazorz)
Then they have to run for their money. 

[Fikes]

You guys are starting to make me wonder why I passed on this game... Any good "getting started" guides?

[Djohaal]

Get the whole pack with expansions. I played it once with only the "born of blood" expansion and it felt rather lame.
Start your first game on easy to get used with the mechanics and etc. Also learn how to operate the tactical combat. It is quite difficult at first.

[Lightning4]

Also one upside to the complete-but-more-expensive-tech-tree. Zuul ships started to raep me with heavy stormers. Researched deflectors. This would be probably impossible to counter given that hivers tend to not have deflectors available.

Well, Hivers have the second best shot at second best armor, and best shot at the best. This is where their ballistic defense normally lies. It's not invulnerability, but it does help a lot.

Sure, there's still the chance you won't roll that either, but the odds are quite in your favor.