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[timferius]

So, this topic just caught my eye, and this game looks pretty awesome. The question is, should I buy it? Or wait until SotS 2 is out this fall?

[Cheese]

Get it, the complete collection is fairly cheap and now on offer, as Krelian has said. SOTS 2 is still a while off, SOTS1 will probably keep you going for quite a while and will familiarise you with the series.

[timferius]

Ok then, consider it bought. I love 4x games, I wish I was better at them...

[Cheese]

You won't regret it, it's a pretty awesome 4X. If you ever need help, ask here or on the SotS forums. Check the wiki as well, it's quite helpful.

[Krelian]

Yes, it is the closest you will ever get to a proper moo2 sequel.

I have tried almost all space 4x games out there, and this one is the best... by far.

[Shadowlord]

The complete collection is for 7 USD (next 5 days)

http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-SOTSCC/sword-of-the-stars-complete-collection

Still $19.99 on steam. I don't trust GamersGate. I already have it from Impulse, mind you, but I have friends who don't.

[forsaken1111]

The complete collection is for 7 USD (next 5 days)

http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-SOTSCC/sword-of-the-stars-complete-collection

Still $19.99 on steam. I don't trust GamersGate. I already have it from Impulse, mind you, but I have friends who don't.

Why don't you trust gamersgate? It's actually their primary publishing partner. I've bought dozens of games from them without incident.

[Android]

I've bought from gamersgate several times, I really like them as they dont DRM the game once you have it, only the download.

[Shadowlord]

Why don't you trust gamersgate? It's actually their primary publishing partner. I've bought dozens of games from them without incident.

Here is why:

I know this is slightly off topic but I've read several posts advocating using GamersGate and my recent experience suggests nobody should be giving them credit card information.

Didn't anybody notice that GamersGate sent your password to you in your registration email?

[...]

Of course you might not care about security. If you are always asking strangers to carry your credit card for you because it is too heavy then you probably don't need to worry about entering it into a website run by idiots.

Sending someone's password in clear text over the internet is always a bad idea for several reasons which should be fairly obvious (it can be captured in several different ways depending on where you are and how you are on the internet), especially when that password, if it isn't changed, could later be used to access their credit card information (if the user saved it / didn't delete it).


Emphasis mine:

Anyone else play this? [(A game named Precursors)] It's a Russian game from now apparently defunct developer Deep Shadows. Recently an English version was released (which is, quite frankly, one of the worst translation jobs I've ever heard of - they simply stripped all the Russian dialog, which bugs the game to not play any audio at all most of the time, and made a really crappy effort at translating the text - luckily a fan made translation patch is better and doesn't screw up the audio). The funny thing is apparently the GamersGate version (which costs $30) is a cracked unpatched version, which you can't patch because that will remove the crack and thus you can't play your legitimately purchased game. To get the GamersGate version working with the patch you have to download a keygen, lol. I bought the russian version from yuplay.ru for $8 and downloaded the unofficial translation patch (which translated the text better, and still included the cutscenes from the english version).

<sarcasm> That doesn't sound fishy at all! </sarcasm> It looks to me like GamersGate is literally selling pirated software. Why else would it include a crack and stop working if you patched it?

[Rakonas]

Why don't you trust gamersgate? It's actually their primary publishing partner. I've bought dozens of games from them without incident.

Here is why:

I know this is slightly off topic but I've read several posts advocating using GamersGate and my recent experience suggests nobody should be giving them credit card information.

Didn't anybody notice that GamersGate sent your password to you in your registration email?

[...]

Of course you might not care about security. If you are always asking strangers to carry your credit card for you because it is too heavy then you probably don't need to worry about entering it into a website run by idiots.

Sending someone's password in clear text over the internet is always a bad idea for several reasons which should be fairly obvious (it can be captured in several different ways depending on where you are and how you are on the internet), especially when that password, if it isn't changed, could later be used to access their credit card information (if the user saved it / didn't delete it).


Emphasis mine:

Anyone else play this? [(A game named Precursors)] It's a Russian game from now apparently defunct developer Deep Shadows. Recently an English version was released (which is, quite frankly, one of the worst translation jobs I've ever heard of - they simply stripped all the Russian dialog, which bugs the game to not play any audio at all most of the time, and made a really crappy effort at translating the text - luckily a fan made translation patch is better and doesn't screw up the audio). The funny thing is apparently the GamersGate version (which costs $30) is a cracked unpatched version, which you can't patch because that will remove the crack and thus you can't play your legitimately purchased game. To get the GamersGate version working with the patch you have to download a keygen, lol. I bought the russian version from yuplay.ru for $8 and downloaded the unofficial translation patch (which translated the text better, and still included the cutscenes from the english version).

<sarcasm> That doesn't sound fishy at all! </sarcasm> It looks to me like GamersGate is literally selling pirated software. Why else would it include a crack and stop working if you patched it?

Man, I'm personally sick of this Gamersgate hate, because while I guess it's not entirely unwarranted I've bought most PC's games I've played in the past few years off of them and never had any problems. The same thing as anything, just check out stuff that you plan on downloading and if other people can vouch for it, whether legit or illegit downloads, then you're pretty much fine. On another note, gamersgate does not save your credit card information and you have to reenter whenever you use it. Hell, I've never seen any website save your credit card information. Also, I could be watching Regular Show right now, why am I posting?

[jocan2003]

Im thinking about something maybe he installed a patch for retail version while he had a downloaded version?

[forsaken1111]

If anecdotal evidence of a possible breach of copyright law and a single admittedly poor security policy will keep you from using gamersgate, I have to ask why you would use any online service. Steam has several questionable policies, not least of which would be their refusal to give any sort of refund ever for any reason, even if the game you bought does not work or if the purchase was made fraudulently. Or the fact that they will ban your account if you reverse a charge on them, even if the charge was fraudulent and reported as such, which of course locks you out of all of your purchased software.

Direct 2 Drive has several games which they simply refuse to patch, either because those patches remove DRM or because the games are deemed 'too old' and are not economically worth patching. d2d encrypts large portions of downloaded games to keep you from 'pirating' them, which severely restricts modding support and makes the game itself run worse than normal as it must decrypt data files prior to use each time it load. I won't even bother going into their draconian DRM policy.

Gamersgate at least has a moderately light DRM policy, allows you to back up the installation files to your drive (which steam and Impulse do as well, but it requires the steam/impulse installer running to install from those backups), and generally has pretty good deals.

[timferius]

In the end, I went with Steam, I know them, never had any problems with them, and I like to keep all my games in one place, and give my credit card number to as few people as possible. Plus I have no problem paying 20 dollars for the game.

[Krelian]

Plus I have no problem paying 20 dollars for the game.

more money for the devs

you will not regret the purchase
any questions about gameplay, here we are

[timferius]

I'm sure I'll have a ton once I get a chance to really play. Mostly just watched the tutorial videos so far. One thing they didn't explain, so I'll ask here, is the two bars on the planet sumary screen that pops up when you select a system. I think one was overproduction or something, and I can't remeber the second (at work).