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[smjjames]

It would have been obvious from the name.

Anyways, I don't get the whole mary sue thing, it was also mentioned all over the place on the girl genius thread.

[Soadreqm]

I'm slowly starting to get used to this "Mary Sue" bollocks. I still find the word irritating. Stop implying that there is something inherently wrong with wish fulfillment characters! >:[

Also, it seems that for Jones to be a robot, the author must be lying. Well, nothing to worry about. Authors do that all the time.

[Urist Imiknorris]

Also, it seems that for Jones to be a robot, the author must be lying. Well, nothing to worry about. Authors do that all the time.

Authors don't lie on T-shirt designs.

[Soadreqm]

Except when they do!

Also, it's not a real T-shirt design until he can show a photo of someone wearing the shirt.

[Jackrabbit]

I'm slowly starting to get used to this "Mary Sue" bollocks. I still find the word irritating. Stop implying that there is something inherently wrong with wish fulfillment characters! >:[

Tropes are not bad.

[Zangi]

I'm slowly starting to get used to this "Mary Sue" bollocks. I still find the word irritating. Stop implying that there is something inherently wrong with wish fulfillment characters! >:[

Tropes are not bad.

Its just annoying to see it all over the place. 

Like bad self-insertion fan fiction...

[Jackrabbit]

I don't know, in the beginning she didn't seem that Sue-ish to me. Maybe one or two moments, but I remember that in the first three or so chapters there wasn't any danger present ever anyway, it was more like a children's cartoon. After that she started to get involved in things waaaay beyond her control, dropped into some mystical war between two factions and because of her heritage she's got the power to help both sides and the first side she's introduced to turns out to be less moral then she thought yadda yadda, it's not like the basic elements of the plot are anything new and it's not like they're bad elements either. That's why I said Tropes Are Not Bad. The story works when things really pick up the pace and even if she's a Mary Sue, it doesn't detract from it.

EDIT: For me, picking up the pace occurred immediately after the Minotaur story.

[Creaca]

Also, did anyone get creeped out during the Cherry Tree bit? She had acted like an emotionless doll pretty much up to that point, then out of no where she starts playing around and crying.

I seriously thought the cherry's where drugged or something.

[sonerohi]

We go through four years of a vast Gunnerkrigg Court world with tons of plot lines. We go back to the cherry tree for a moment, to see Annie bleeding out and the gardener about to shoot Kat because they are in a classified zone of the Court.

[Jackrabbit]

Also, did anyone get creeped out during the Cherry Tree bit? She had acted like an emotionless doll pretty much up to that point, then out of no where she starts playing around and crying.

I seriously thought the cherry's where drugged or something.

Character development may seem strange and scary at first, but the story is growing and going through all kinds of changes. It's perfectly natural and an exciting time, when the story discovers much about itself.

[Creaca]

The way it was done was so out of place and jarring, she might as well have had tentacles sprout from out of her back and proclaimed her Dad was actually C'thulu.

Well, no. Considering the way she acted up to that point that would have been a little less weird.

[Jackrabbit]

The idea, as I understand it, was that she was acting emotionally distant and detatched because her mother had died, her father had left and she'd been unceremoniously dumped in a new school. Even worse:

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she herself had to take her mother into the afterlife, so she essentially had to take dead parent by the hand and lead them out of her life forever.

All of these things would have been emotionally traumatizing. All of these things together leaves her emotionally traumatized to the point where you'd want a straightjacket on hand. I'm surprised it didn't fuck her up for life, but that wouldn't have made for a good story. When she cries, it's because she can't keep her emotions repressed anymore. I don't think she'd cried once since her mothers death, but don't quote me on that.

[Haspen]

She did cried once. At 'artificial' tree compound, with Kat there, after eating some cherries and stuff.

[Jackrabbit]

That was the point I was talking about.

[lordnincompoop]

I though the cherries were drugged or something too. And I get your point Jackrabbit, it just would have been better if it wasn't so sudden and jarring (possibly at a better moment too. Makes you wonder why that tree was locked up in the first place).