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[druid91]

What comes with the normal goblin siege? I want to test what military I have in arena mode, to see if it is an adequate defense.

[ISGC]

a large part of defenses is strategic placement and traps.  making a long corridor filled to the wall with cage traps and weapon traps, with a balliasta opposite the door, you hardly need a military to take down a good number of goblins.  however, your first siege will likely be 10-20 goblins with iron-copper weapons and armor (not entirely sure about how it is in 2010, though)

[bmaczero]

Traditionally you'd get 2 to 5 squads of gobbos.  A couple of these would be led by goblin weaponmasters (elites).  Each squad would consist of probably 5 wrestlers and 3 weapongoblins usually wielding the same weapons.

Don't know if 2010 is the same.

[Porpoisepower]

I haven't seen a goblin/kobold yet!

Do they only happen after breaching a cavern? I didn't see any Goblin Civ's during my last embark

[Griz]

I haven't seen a goblin/kobold yet!

Do they only happen after breaching a cavern? I didn't see any Goblin Civ's during my last embark

hitting a cavern just opens you up to attacks from underground. goblins still live aboveground, so if you don't have any they're either extinct or have no land access to your fort.

I had a siege show up with a squad of crossbows and a squad of lashers or something, all with iron/copper/bronze gear (which is now dwarf-sized so you can get lots of usable free stuff from a trap corridor)

[Rijjka]

Yeah, I can vouch for the goblins dieing off, I had their civs die off in two worlds I genned. I heard something about them not having the breed tag anymore. So they don't have kids. They just steal them.

[Rastaan]

So, what. If you let the goblins steal enough of your kids, eventually the goblin raiding parties are just DWARVEN raiding parties?!

[Whisp]

Dworfs solen by gobling, raised by goblins stealing dworfs.

[Z1000000m]

i just had like 7 ambushes in a row

if not for my ~10 war elephants, robbed elven caravan shitty weapons, 30 cage traps, terrible ai and good mechs on weapon traps, id be a dead god

now i have a pimpy blood soaked entrance worthy of armorks blessing, and coffins with elephant hero bodies
not a single dwarf lost, elven merchant on the other had werent so lucky

its not exactly a siege, but it was wayy larger than it

[NinjaE8825]

So, what. If you let the goblins steal enough of your kids, eventually the goblin raiding parties are just DWARVEN raiding parties?!

I think raiding parties are spawned when they attack, so they consist entirely of goblins.
Though, IIRC, they might have a dawrf leader if they've stolen your dwarves before.

[Mr_Bucket_Hat]

I've been in my fortress for five years so far, and I haven't gotten so much as a kobold thief. No antman/batman invasion tunnels, no goblin sieges, no Irate elves, nothing. Just a few racoons, a couple of dear and one dead dwarf because he jumped into a lake to fight a racoon and drowned. Partially because he couldn't do anything more than bruise the racoon because of his training axe.

[CptFastbreak]

I think both gobbo presence and equipment heavily depends on worldgen. I have been consistently getting about 3-4 snatchers followed by 2-3 ambush squads from the end of the second year on. Last time I checked, the ambush squad had mostly silver equipment.

[Mr_Bucket_Hat]

Nice, but not able to be used as picks.

Well, that may explain it. I don't know how far the Goblins are from me, but Its obviously a trek. To bother making the trip I'd need to have something really worth stealing. Its a bit more boring this way though. My military is non existant because last time I tried to start one only one member turned up. The rest wouldn't do a thing.

[axus]

On the game where I had ambushes, they all came in leather armor with iron weapons.  Groups of 6-8, three to five groups.  I did have a Human Priest leading one of the groups before.  Well, I assume he was the leader, he sort of stood out ;p

[PopeRichardCorey]

Well, I just got my fort up to 80 population, and a siege came within a season.  We've got a bit less than 300000 created wealth.  (More, now that the mid-siege mood is complete.)  I got a single squad of 15 swordsgobs, and a hammergob RIDING A GIANT TOAD.

They killed a dog who attacked them, and a kitten who happened to be outside, while the rest of my fortress ran inside.

Then the giant toad jumped into the outdoor well.  The hammergob drowned.  The giant toad is still sitting there, and most of the swordsgobs are standing around the totally bloodsoaked well.

This might be what you can expect.