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Razonatair

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New Trainables!
« on: April 10, 2010, 06:18:40 pm »

I was going through the raws to discover what elephants were like now, and I discovered they have [trAINABLE] in their tags now. My curiosity piqued, I searched the rest of the raws, and discovered that we're no longer limited to just War Dogs... This is the whole list;

Trainables;
DOMESTIC
Dog
LARGE MOUNTAIN
Giant Eagle
LARGE TEMPERATE
Grizzly Bear
LARGE TROPICAL
Elephant
Lion
Leopard
Jaguar
Tiger
Cheetah
Mandrill
Gorilla
LARGE TUNDRA
Polar Bear
SAVAGE TROPICAL
Giant Lion
Giant Leopard
Giant Jaguar
Giant Tiger
Giant Cheetah
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Dragon
SUBTERRANEAN
Giant Bat (Hunting)
Giant Cave Swallow (Hunting)
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Re: New Trainables!
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2010, 06:38:56 pm »

I wonder if [trAINABLE] itself means something different now.
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Re: New Trainables!
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2010, 06:41:18 pm »

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Re: New Trainables!
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2010, 06:41:50 pm »

I find myself unable to train a Jaguar, perhaps it does mean otherwise.

It could refer to the ability for any race to use them, and that races specific files determine if they can or not. So for example Giant Bats are tamable so batmen can ride them, and all those big cats are for elves to use.

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Re: New Trainables!
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2010, 06:44:09 pm »

I have no idea. Trainable has always traditionally meant that it can become War *X*, the X being the animal, which is what happens when you mod the raws.

I find myself unable to train a Jaguar, perhaps it does mean otherwise.

It could refer to the ability for any race to use them, and that races specific files determine if they can or not. So for example Giant Bats are tamable so batmen can ride them, and all those big cats are for elves to use.

Possibly. Is the jaguar tame? Everything must first be tamed before trained... And Jaguars are Exotic Pets, thus requiring the dungeon master.
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Re: New Trainables!
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2010, 06:57:59 pm »

I sure hope its tame! The elves I bought it from said it was!

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Re: New Trainables!
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2010, 07:00:57 pm »

@Max - There's a difference between TAME and TRAIN.  TAME means they won't kill your dwarves and will just loiter around meeting areas.  TRAINED means they are "war" animals and can be assigned to dwarves to help them kill stuff.
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Re: New Trainables!
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2010, 07:04:26 pm »

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Now if only we could make armor for them. Out of meteoric iron!
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Re: New Trainables!
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2010, 07:06:49 pm »

@Max - There's a difference between TAME and TRAIN.  TAME means they won't kill your dwarves and will just loiter around meeting areas.  TRAINED means they are "war" animals and can be assigned to dwarves to help them kill stuff.

Yes, I know, I have a TAME animals I bought from elves, that has the [trAINABLE] tag, yet can not be trained. The fact that is is an exotic pet is irrelevant to the fact that I can't train it.

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Re: New Trainables!
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2010, 07:08:44 pm »

It being an exotic pet might matter. Perhaps you can't train exotics until the dungeon master arrives, either?
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Re: New Trainables!
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2010, 07:09:13 pm »

now I wish there were more above ground animals that I could trap
but that would trash my fps :(
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Re: New Trainables!
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2010, 07:12:29 pm »

It being an exotic pet might matter. Perhaps you can't train exotics until the dungeon master arrives, either?

Could be! Although would need somebody with war (X - dog) to prove.

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Re: New Trainables!
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2010, 07:22:13 pm »

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Re: New Trainables!
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2010, 07:24:33 pm »

I'm thinking you do need a dungeon master for some pets but I can't confirm.  I did have an odd experience when one of my milkers was interrupted by the cougar I bought, but it's showing up as tame and apparently can't be trained yet.  However the bear I bought at the same time is now a hunting bear(I wanted a war bear but I messed up I guess).  So bears at least are trainable at a kennel.  Also, when you assign a war or hunting animal to somebody, it apparently just picks one for you, I'm not sure how.  Maybe it just goes with whatever is highest on the list.

I have a grizzly capable of sneaking up on things!
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Re: New Trainables!
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2010, 07:28:38 pm »

Okay so it's pretty much confirmed that we need dungeon masters to train Exotics?

And yes, there is a difference between train war and train hunting. Thus the bats being only hunting-trainable.
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