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[krisslanza]

I've been thinking of making some more "advanced" armors/weapons for my mod, that are going to be made via reactions so I can justify their increased usefulness by making them harder to make...

But the problem I have is I'm not really sure what defines a "better" armor or weapon. Especially for armor, I can't really think of ways to improve upon the existing stuff. For weapons, I forget which tokens are the ones you want to increase to do more, and which actually do better if they're lower.

Any pointers?

[Putnam]

I've been thinking of making some more "advanced" armors/weapons for my mod, that are going to be made via reactions so I can justify their increased usefulness by making them harder to make...

But the problem I have is I'm not really sure what defines a "better" armor or weapon. Especially for armor, I can't really think of ways to improve upon the existing stuff. For weapons, I forget which tokens are the ones you want to increase to do more, and which actually do better if they're lower.

Any pointers?

http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Metal#Weapon_.26_Armor_Quality

[franti]

I've added several custom plants to the game, several of which work perfectly fine, as part of a larger mod. One of them is giving me grief.
I'm trying to make a plant called "Tundra Rye". I know it's in the game because some of my dwarves like it, and "Rye Spirits", the alchohol distilled from it: calling it Vodka sounded too "IRL", ya know?

I also changed above-ground plants to be seasonal, and so Tundra Rye would be one of the few plants that could be grown in the winter.

I want it to grow not only in Tundras, but also in other cold, plains-like areas, so this is what I added for the biome:
[WET][DRY][BIOME:COLD][BIOME:FREEZING][BIOME:ANY_TUNDRA][BIOME:ANY_SHRUBLAND][BIOME:ANY_GRASSLAND][BIOME:ANY_SAVANAH] (may have spelt some stuff wrong here, but that's not the issue)

My questions:

First off, I'm opperating on the asumption that [WET] allows it to grow on wet areas, instead of preventing it from growing on dry areas. If somebody could confirm that, it'd help a lot.

Secondly, I know the [NOT_FREEZING] tag exists, so I'm assuming its inverse, and the [COLD] versions also exist.

Finally, is [BIOME:ANY_TUNDRA] an acceptable tag?

Please advise.

[franti]

A rather complicated question:

(rest of post)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I plan on modding in a couple of primitive firearms (hand-cannons, muskets), early artillery (cannons), and complex ways of producing ammo for them.

The ammo for the musket will have to go like this:
1) I must burn a tree at the wood furnace to make a block of charcoal.
2) I also must burn another tree to make a block of ash.
3) Then, a dwarf builds an ashery to turn the ash into a block of potash.
4) Yet another dwarf must build the Saltpeter Beds workshop (Civ Forge) to turn the potash into a boulder of saltpeter.
5) The block of charcoal is hauled to a quern or a mill and ground up with the saltpeter--turning into 'a stack of 10 gunpowder'-- and is transferred to an empty bag.
6) Bullets (count as a type of toy) are then cast at a custom workshop, the Foundry, and the bag of gunpowder, a unit of cloth, and the bullets are hauled off.
7) 50 cartridges are then made at the clothier's workshop.

The recipe for hand cannon ammo is mostly the same, except that hand-cannonballs (still a toy) must be cast, instead of bullets.

The recipe for cannon ammo is the same as above, but any random stone will do for ammunition.

The components for each firearm must also be cast, but for the cannon, it needs two pipe sections.

For a Hand-Cannon to be made:
1) A dwarf forges a pipe section.
2) Another dwarf carries a log to a craftsdwarf's workshop and carves it into a musket stock (wood crafting)
3) The Gunsmith (weaponsmith with custom profession name) carries the Pipe Section and the musket stock to the Gunsmith's Shop (custom workshop).
4) The gunsmith then attaches the pipe section to the musket stock to create one Hand-Cannon (gains skill in smithing weapons).

For a Musket to be made:
1) The Founder (furnace operator with custom profession name) takes a metal bar to the foundry and casts a Gun Barrel (tool).
2) The founder hauls another metal bar and casts five Gun Mechanisms (yet another toy).
3) A Weaponsmith forges a Bayonet from another metal bar (weapon, obviously).
4) A wood-crafter carves out another Musket stock (forgot to mention it's a tool).
5) The gunsmith hauls the gun barrel, one gun mechanism, the bayonet, and the musket stock to his shop and creates one Musket.

To make a cannon (siege engine):
1) A Metalsmith forges two pipe sections.
2) The same metalsmith then forges a mechanism.
3) A Siege Engineer makes two catapult parts.
4) The two pipe sections are then welded together at the foundry by the founder to make a Cannon Barrel.
5) When needed, the catapult parts, the cannon barrel, and the mechanism can be combined to make a mighty cannon.

Only problem is, I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHATSOEVER how to do ANYTHING I've typed. Does anyone else know what to do?

Sorry for the long post.

If you have no idea how to do this, no idea whatsoever, it's probably too advanced for you to atempt. You'd need ~6 custom reactions, three custom workshops, two custom skills, and two custom item templates, not to mention the physics of getting a bullet to interact appropriately. It's also a bit long for somebody to offer help on all of it at once. Write up a plan for what needs to be done and how to do each step, and take it one bit at a time. This IS a pretty big mod, and posting all of it here is somewhat akin to posting "How do I play this game" in the Little Questions thread.
(Also, sorry if that first bit sounded dickish, it's not intended to)

[narhiril]

The bit about the cannon siege engine cannot be done with the current version.

[Putnam]

It's not too advanced. Just one step at a time.

I mean, I've had worse. Multiple problems, constant workarounds, and that's all in my first mod. This is fully doable for a first-time modder. Just look up what you need one step at a time.

[ArKFallen]

According to testing body_detail_plans will only take up to 5 arguments (should probably go on the wiki), and as such I ended up creating 4 plans for all 20 different materials. Here they are, my detailed vertebrae plans:

Spoiler: Detailed Plans (click to show/hide)

Edit:Tore out the horn def when I realized I missed it

Code: ('---' denotes materials that weren't arguments before) [Select]

[OBJECT:BODY_DETAIL_PLAN]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:DETAILED_VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERSOUTER]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:BODY:ARG3:50:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:BODY_UPPER:ARG3:50:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:BODY_LOWER:ARG3:50:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:ARM:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:ARM_UPPER:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:ARM_LOWER:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:HAND:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:LEG:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:LEG_UPPER:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:LEG_LOWER:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:LEG_FRONT:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:LEG_REAR:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:FOOT:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:FOOT_FRONT:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:FOOT_REAR:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:ARG3:50:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:NECK:ARG3:50:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:WING:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:TENTACLE:ARG3:50:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:PINCER:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:TAIL:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:STINGER:ARG4:100]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:NOSE:ARG5:4:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:PROBOSCIS:ARG5:4:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:ANTENNA:ARG5:4:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:MANDIBLE:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:EAR:ARG5:4:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:MOUTH:ARG3:10:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:BEAK:ARG4:100]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:RIB_TRUE:ARG4:100]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:RIB_FALSE:ARG4:100]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:RIB_FLOATING:ARG4:100]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:JOINT:ARG4:4:ARG3:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:SPINE:NERVE:2:ARG4:2]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:FINGER:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:TOE:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:FIN:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:FLIPPER:ARG4:25:ARG3:25:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:HUMP:ARG2:50:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:LIP:ARG3:10:ARG2:5:ARG1:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:CHEEK:ARG1:100]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:EYELID:ARG1:100]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT:ARG1:100]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:SKULL:ARG4:100]
General Vertabrae layer order;
SKIN:FAT:MUSCLE:BONE:CARTILAGE

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:DETAILED_VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERSINNER1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:EYE:ARG1:100]---
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:LUNG:ARG2:100]---
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:HEART:ARG3:100]---
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:BRAIN:ARG4:100]---
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:GUTS:ARG5:100]---
General Vertabrae layer order;
EYE:LUNG:HEART:BRAIN:GUT

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:DETAILED_VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERSINNER2]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:LIVER:ARG1:100]---
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:STOMACH:ARG2:100]--
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:PANCREAS:ARG3:100]--
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:SPLEEN:ARG4:100]---
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:KIDNEY:ARG5:100]---
General Vertabrae layer order;
LIVER:STOMACH:PANCREAS:SPLEEN:KIDNEY

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:DETAILED_VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS_HARD]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:CLAW:ARG1:100]---
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:SHELL:ARG2:100]---
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:TOOTH:ARG3:100]---
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:TUSK:ARG4:100]---
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:HOOF:ARG5:100]---
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:HOOF_FRONT:ARG5:100]---
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:HOOF_REAR:ARG5:100]---
General Vertabrae layer order;
NAIL:SHELL:TOOTH:IVORY:HOOF


So normal tissues would use these lines:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Added the horn's line

Code: [Select]

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:DETAILED_VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERSOUTER:SKIN:FAT:MUSCLE:BONE:CARTILAGE]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:DETAILED_VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERSINNER1:EYE:LUNG:HEART:BRAIN:GUT]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:DETAILED_VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERSINNER2:LIVER:STOMACH:PANCREAS:SPLEEN:KIDNEY]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:DETAILED_VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS_HARD:NAIL:SHELL:TOOTH:IVORY:HOOF]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:DETAILED_VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS_HARD2:HORN:BONE]

Any material without a body part isn't put into corpse so Ivory and hoof doesn't show up on dwarf corpses. I don't really have any questions, I'm just putting out my results.

Spoiler: Forgotten Detail_Plan (click to show/hide)

Code: [Select]

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:DETAILED_VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS_HARD2]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:HORN:ARG2:2:ARG1:2]---
General Vertabrae layer order;
HORN:BONE

Edit:Woops! I missed the horn tissue. So now I've got a nearly redundant detail_plan, dwarfy! [Long Edit:Realized I missed the bone in the horn and it bugged me]

[UristMcHuman]

No, franti, I'm not using custom skills, just giving the crafters a custom profession name.

Actually, instead of making another tool, I'm just going to make a metal blow-gun as a reagent.

I dunno. I'm going to have to figure out how to do this on the weekends. School's about to start in a day, and I have to start worrying about that.

[drilltooth]

probably been asked before, but search came up empty, Can equipment (other than sheilds, of course) add body parts? picture something like the winged hussars..

I suspect the idea might have to wait for gear damage to be implemented, but, can;t hurt too much to ask.

[Gizogin]

Hey guys.  I want to add paper, and I want to see if the reactions and stuff I've made will work.  Can anyone check through my raws and see if they look okay?  Mainly I want to know if I will actually be able to make "bars" of paper from pulped wood, which I can then make into paper sheets or use for other purposes.

Spoiler: the paper template (click to show/hide)

[MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:PAPER_TEMPLATE]
   [STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:WHITE]
   [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:paper]
   [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:paper]
   [STATE_COLOR:LIQUID:WHITE]
   [STATE_NAME:LIQUID:wet paper]
   [STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:wet paper]
   [STATE_COLOR:GAS:WHITE]
   [STATE_NAME:GAS:paper]
   [STATE_ADJ:GAS:paper]
   [DISPLAY_COLOR:7:0:1]
   [MATERIAL_VALUE:10]
   [SPEC_HEAT:900]
   [IGNITE_POINT:10419]
   [MELTING_POINT:NONE]
   [BOILING_POINT:NONE]
   [HEATDAM_POINT:10250]
   [COLDDAM_POINT:9000]
   [MAT_FIXED_TEMP:NONE]
   [SOLID_DENSITY:500]
   [LIQUID_DENSITY:NONE]
   [MOLAR_MASS:NONE]
   [IMPACT_YIELD:10000]
   [IMPACT_FRACTURE:10000]
   [IMPACT_ELASTICITY:100]
   [COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:10000]
   [COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:10000]
   [COMPRESSIVE_ELASTICITY:100]
   [TENSILE_YIELD:10000]
   [TENSILE_FRACTURE:10000]
   [TENSILE_ELASTICITY:100]
   [TORSION_YIELD:10000]
   [TORSION_FRACTURE:10000]
   [TORSION_ELASTICITY:100]
   [SHEAR_YIELD:6600]
   [SHEAR_FRACTURE:6600]
   [SHEAR_ELASTICITY:100]
   [BENDING_YIELD:10000]
   [BENDING_FRACTURE:10000]
   [BENDING_ELASTICITY:100]
   [MAX_EDGE:500]
   [ABSORPTION:100]
   [ITEMS_HARD]
   [ITEMS_ARMOR] - yeah, paper armor

these are mostly just random numbers, I'll actually make an effort with them once I know it works

Spoiler: inorganic:paper (click to show/hide)

[INORGANIC:PAPER]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:PAPER_TEMPLATE]

Spoiler: the pulp and paper sheets (click to show/hide)

[ITEM_TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_PULP]
[NAME:pulp:pulps]
[VALUE:1]
[TILE:42]
[SIZE:7500]

[ITEM_TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_PAPER]
[NAME:sheet:sheets]
[VALUE:2]
[TILE:240]
[SIZE:500]

Spoiler: the reactions (click to show/hide)

[REACTION:PULP_WOOD]
[NAME:pulp wood]
[BUILDING:MILL_PAPER:P]
[REAGENT:A:1:WOOD:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[PRODUCT:100:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_PULP:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE]
[SKILL:WOOD_CRAFT]

[REACTION:PRESS_PULP]
[NAME:make paper from pulp]
[BUILDING:MILL_PAPER:A]
[REAGENT:A:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_PULP:NONE:NONE]
[PRODUCT:100:150:BAR:NONE:INORGANIC:PAPER]
[SKILL:WOOD_CRAFT]

[REACTION:PAPER_SHEETS]
[NAME:separate paper sheets]
[BUILDING:MILL_PAPER:S]
[REAGENT:A:150:BAR:NONE:INORGANIC:PAPER]
[PRODUCT:100:10:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_PAPER:INORGANIC:PAPER]
[SKILL:WOOD_CRAFT]

[Putnam]

Test it yourself!

[Gizogin]

Test it yourself!

Aww, I was afraid you'd say that... 
Arena testing, at least, I can do.  I had to change the files significantly just to get paper usable as a material for weapons and armor.  It's about as useful as you'd expect.
One other issue that I caught fairly quickly was that the reactions, as set up, would have made 150 bars of paper, rather than just one.

On a different note, is there a way I can add a new type of fuel?  I was thinking of combining paper and logs into those firestarter-logs you can get.

[LittleD]

It is possible to have two [ELECTED] positions that will not end in one person sharing two titles?

[UltraValican]

Descriptors, how do they work?
I'm playing around with desriptors but nothing seems to work.
For the sake of example lets take the Incubus/Succubus mod(what I've been praticing with), I can change a succubuse desription, but I can seem to add those descriptions to other people.
What do?

[Orangebottle]

Edit:thread's pretty abandoned, gonna try and fix it myself.