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[trees]

[PERMITTED_JOB:FURNACE_OPERATOR] and [METAL_PREF], I believe, not including the item tags.

[Lexx]

[PERMITTED_JOB:FURNACE_OPERATOR] and [METAL_PREF], I believe, not including the item tags.

Thankyou for confirming. I will double check they have that and see how it goes next load of testing.

[Fallen Flame]

Okay I got another question here. I made two new castes in my creature, and In the arena in the list to spawn creatures it shows them by different (correct) names. But after they are spawned they all have the same name displayed. Is this a bug just in arena mode or did I do something wrong when I made the castes?

[narhiril]

Okay I got another question here. I made two new castes in my creature, and In the arena in the list to spawn creatures it shows them by different (correct) names. But after they are spawned they all have the same name displayed. Is this a bug just in arena mode or did I do something wrong when I made the castes?

The arena names individual creatures using the creature name rather than the caste name.  If they're showing up with the right names in the creature list, they're working just fine.  In fortress and adventure mode, the creatures will show up under the correct (caste-level) names.

If you're still unconvinced, you can test this for yourself by spawning a lion and lioness  (this is a stock creature) in the arena.  While in the arena, they will appear as "lion 1" and "lion 2," despite the difference in caste, but will appear as "lion" and "lioness" everywhere else.

[franti]

If I changed [METAL_PREF] to [METAL_PREF:BRONZE] will I get a civ that only uses bronze, or only uses it for military functions?

[narhiril]

All that [METAL_PREF] does is make each member of that entity have a favorite metal.  Like, when you examine a dwarf who likes "sandstone, gold, blah blah" the "gold" is there because of the [METAL_PREF] token.  If you want an entity to only use a specific metal, you have to get a little bit creative.  The best way to do this is to remove the furnace operator labor from their permissions and to assign them a custom workshop with a metal-generating reaction.  Forbidding furnace operators will ensure that this is the only way they will be able to acquire metals - without doing this, all civilizations will have access to all base metals (copper, silver, iron) as well as any alloys that they are given reaction permissions for.

Let me give you the raws from one of my civilizations that does this.

Spoiler: building_npc_lfr.txt (click to show/hide)

building_npc_lfr

[OBJECT:BUILDING]

[BUILDING_WORKSHOP:METAL_CHEAT] this is just a generic workshop called a "furnace," which actually uses the mason skill.
   [NAME:Furnace]
   [NAME_COLOR:4:0:1]
   [DIM:3:3]
   [WORK_LOCATION:2:2]
   [BUILD_LABOR:MASON]
   [BUILD_KEY:CUSTOM_SHIFT_P]
   [BLOCK:1:0:1:1]
   [BLOCK:2:0:0:0]
   [BLOCK:3:0:0:1]
   [TILE:0:1:150:'o':150]
   [TILE:0:2:'o':' ':'o']
   [TILE:0:3:' ':' ':166]
   [COLOR:0:1:0:0:0:2:0:1:0:0:0]
   [COLOR:0:2:1:0:1:0:0:0:4:0:1]
   [COLOR:0:3:0:0:0:0:0:0:3:0:0]
   [TILE:1:1:' ':' ':150]
   [TILE:1:2:'-':'/':'o']
   [TILE:1:3:' ':' ':150]
   [COLOR:1:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:1:0:0]
   [COLOR:1:2:6:0:0:0:0:0:3:0:1]
   [COLOR:1:3:0:0:0:0:0:0:1:0:0]
   [TILE:2:1:'-':' ':150]
   [TILE:2:2:' ':' ':' ']
   [TILE:2:3:' ':150:'o']
   [COLOR:2:1:6:0:0:0:0:0:1:0:0]
   [COLOR:2:2:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
   [COLOR:2:3:0:0:0:6:0:0:4:1:1]
   [TILE:0:1:150:'o':150]
   [TILE:0:2:'o':' ':'o']
   [TILE:0:3:' ':' ':166]
   [COLOR:3:1:6:0:0:6:0:0:6:0:0]
   [COLOR:3:2:6:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
   [COLOR:3:3:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:1]
   [BUILD_ITEM:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE][BUILDMAT][WORTHLESS_STONE_ONLY][CAN_USE_ARTIFACT]

Spoiler: reaction_npc.txt (click to show/hide)

reaction_npc

[OBJECT:REACTION]

[REACTION:MAKE_STEEL_CHEAT] produces steel for a civ that cannot smelt its own ores.
[NAME:make steel bars]
[BUILDING:METAL_CHEAT:CUSTOM_S]
[PRODUCT:100:2:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:STEEL][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
[SKILL:MASONRY] because this isn't SMELT, a civilization without smelters will still be able to perform it, if permitted.

Spoiler: add to entity (click to show/hide)

[PERMITTED_BUILDING:METAL_CHEAT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_STEEL_CHEAT]

Obviously you can replace steel with whatever metal you want.

[veok]

Here's a question: is there any way to make the bones of animals the same item? I.e., there's not a "dragon" bone or "cat" bone, there's just a "animal bone", with only the one type of bone showing up in the refuse stockpile.

I've worked on several methods to homogenize products (i.e., leather and tallow) but bone is something direct from the animal, so my previous methods are not reusable.

[Kweri]

Here's a question: is there any way to make the bones of animals the same item? I.e., there's not a "dragon" bone or "cat" bone, there's just a "animal bone", with only the one type of bone showing up in the refuse stockpile.

I've worked on several methods to homogenize products (i.e., leather and tallow) but bone is something direct from the animal, so my previous methods are not reusable.

Sure - create a dummy creature to hold your bone material. Add the bone material to it. In every other creature, do not add bone material (edit the body detail plan even). For bone tissue, make it use CREATURE_MAT:DUMMY_CREATURE:BONE for the material instead of the usual LOCAL material.

This is the same way I'd do leather/tallow... I'm curious how you did it without doing this!

[Fallen Flame]

Alright ran into another problem I can't seem to solve. I'm trying to get my creature to drop a masterwork longsword when it dies but no matter how I do it, I can't get it to work I've tried

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[ITEMCORPSE:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_LONG:NO_SUBTYPE:INORGANIC:ELEMENTIUM]
[ITEMCORPSE:ITEM:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_LONG:INORGANIC:ELEMENTIUM]
[ITEMCORPSE:ITEM_ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_LONG:INORGANIC:ELEMENTIUM]
[ITEMCORPSE:ITEM:ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_LONG:INORGANIC:ELEMENTIUM]No matter how I make it I can't get it to work and I keep getting an error  (Or something similar)

Code: [Select]

ABOMINATION:COMBATANT:Unrecognized Item Token: ITEM
ABOMINATION:COMBATANT:Unrecognized Material Token: ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_LONG
What am I doing wrong and how can I get it to work?

[jaxy15]

Alright ran into another problem I can't seem to solve. I'm trying to get my creature to drop a masterwork longsword when it dies but no matter how I do it, I can't get it to work I've tried

Code: [Select]

[ITEMCORPSE:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_LONG:NO_SUBTYPE:INORGANIC:ELEMENTIUM]
[ITEMCORPSE:ITEM:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_LONG:INORGANIC:ELEMENTIUM]
[ITEMCORPSE:ITEM_ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_LONG:INORGANIC:ELEMENTIUM]
[ITEMCORPSE:ITEM:ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_LONG:INORGANIC:ELEMENTIUM]No matter how I make it I can't get it to work and I keep getting an error  (Or something similar)

Code: [Select]

ABOMINATION:COMBATANT:Unrecognized Item Token: ITEM
ABOMINATION:COMBATANT:Unrecognized Material Token: ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_LONG
What am I doing wrong and how can I get it to work?

[ITEMCORPSE:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_LONG:INORGANIC:ELEMENTIUM]

[veok]

Here's a question: is there any way to make the bones of animals the same item? I.e., there's not a "dragon" bone or "cat" bone, there's just a "animal bone", with only the one type of bone showing up in the refuse stockpile.

I've worked on several methods to homogenize products (i.e., leather and tallow) but bone is something direct from the animal, so my previous methods are not reusable.

Sure - create a dummy creature to hold your bone material. Add the bone material to it. In every other creature, do not add bone material (edit the body detail plan even). For bone tissue, make it use CREATURE_MAT:DUMMY_CREATURE:BONE for the material instead of the usual LOCAL material.

This is the same way I'd do leather/tallow... I'm curious how you did it without doing this!

That *is* how I've done leather / tallow... wouldn't removing bones from the body plan mean that butchering yields no bones?

Actually, I guess we won't know until I try. Time for some !!science!!

[Fallen Flame]

Okay thanks, and related question, can you have something drop two items on its death? or can It only ever drop one?

[trees]

For masterwork quality on the sword, set [ITEMCORPSE_QUALITY:X] to 5. Not sure about getting it to drop two things on death, but you could make different castes of your creature that drop different things.

[Fallen Flame]

Hmm yeah you can only get one item to drop per creature, so I guess I would have to give each caste a seperate drop. If you had to choose between the two which type of weapon would you prefer? A slade mace? or a sword that is slightly worse than adamantine?

Also is there anyway to get something to drop a barrel of booze when it dies, I wouldn't be surprised if there is not.
And also for weapon materials is the only thing that influences it's ability to cut well it's [MAX_EDGE:X] tag?

[Kweri]

Here's a question: is there any way to make the bones of animals the same item? I.e., there's not a "dragon" bone or "cat" bone, there's just a "animal bone", with only the one type of bone showing up in the refuse stockpile.

I've worked on several methods to homogenize products (i.e., leather and tallow) but bone is something direct from the animal, so my previous methods are not reusable.

Sure - create a dummy creature to hold your bone material. Add the bone material to it. In every other creature, do not add bone material (edit the body detail plan even). For bone tissue, make it use CREATURE_MAT:DUMMY_CREATURE:BONE for the material instead of the usual LOCAL material.

This is the same way I'd do leather/tallow... I'm curious how you did it without doing this!

That *is* how I've done leather / tallow... wouldn't removing bones from the body plan mean that butchering yields no bones?

Actually, I guess we won't know until I try. Time for some !!science!!

You're not removing the TISSUE bone from the body plans - just altering it to use a different material. Since you never add the bone material to cats or dragons, you can never have cat or dragon bones (or preferences for them, woot!) - just your generic "animal bone". And your cats and dragons still have a bone material for their bone tissues, it's just a material that belongs to another creature (the dummy creature).

I went through and started doing this for all materials for all creatures but stopped after the first few creature files. On the one hand it would be nice to not have mandates for squirrel tooth items, for example ("animal tooth" gives so many more possibilities!), but part of the fun is getting such absurd requests.

Still, if you release this when you're done (as I see you have the leather modifications) I'll probably give it a shot. Sometimes simplification is relaxing and lets you focus on other aspects of the game more fully.