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[Eldrick Tobin]

Fellow modders. I've hit something bizarre.

I think I caused DF to need some time to lay down.

What I did was turn a type of creature into a veritable map of creature variations. It ran fine. I duplicated this process out to many many castes.

Suddenly it had tissue issues, for I had put the specific tissues into their own CV for Flavah. Before the megacasting it was FINE.

My solution: A declaration that's likely to get tossed out anyway. I simply put a 'plain jane vanilla' [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:CHITIN_TISSUES] line in. Granted it's going to have it's contents meddled with LATER but that one step put me back at a perfectly clean error_log.txt


Has this happened to anyone else? "How many castes using heavily cv'd templates are we talking?" 72. 18 Base types, in 2 Species and 2 Sizes per species.

Anyone want to see what I mean can dl here.

[Sphalerite]

I think that error may be superfluous, since it only appears once; the likely error-causing tags appear no less than 4 times in the file, and there are only 3 caste bodytypes, so it shouldn't be a problem.

Also, question: with LAYS_UNUSUAL_EGGS, how many "eggs" are laid at once? Is it only one, or is it defined in the creature file?

With LAYS_UNUSUAL_EGGS only one item is laid at a time.  CLUTCH_SIZE only matters for normal eggs.

[RogueArchivist]

How do I utilize honey in a reaction? I cant seem to find the right tags anywhere.

[jaxy15]

How do I utilize honey in a reaction? I cant seem to find the right tags anywhere.

Observe the make mead reaction.

[RogueArchivist]

Thanks you. Im not sure how I missed that one the first time around...

Edit: Ok, Ive bashed together a reaction here that creates a custom metal. I already have all the custom bits of the reaction done, I just need to know if this reaction has a chance of working.

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[REACTION:REFINE_BIOMITE]
    [NAME:Refine biomite into bars]
    [BUILDING:BIOSYNTH:NONE]
    [REAGENT:150:POWDER_MISC:NO_SUBTYPE:PLANT_MAT:PLANT_BIOMITE:MILL]
    [REAGENT:BOX:1:NONE:NONE:NONE]
        [CONTAINS:powder]
        [BAG]
        [PRESERVE_REAGENT]
        [DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
    [REAGENT:1:POWDER_MISC:NONE:INORGANIC:SAND]
    [REAGENT:BOX:1:NONE:NONE:NONE]
        [CONTAINS:powder]
        [BAG]
        [PRESERVE_REAGENT]
        [DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
    [REAGENT:1:honey:150:LIQUID_MISC:NONE:CREATURE_MAT:HONEY_BEE:HONEY]
        [UNROTTEN]
    [REAGENT:honey container:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
        [CONTAINS:honey]
        [PRESERVE_REAGENT]
        [DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
    [REAGENT:1:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:COAL:NO_MATGLOSS]
    [PRODUCT:100:1:BAR:NO_SUB_TYPE:METAL:BIOMITE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]

[Putnam]

I think that error may be superfluous, since it only appears once; the likely error-causing tags appear no less than 4 times in the file, and there are only 3 caste bodytypes, so it shouldn't be a problem.

Also, question: with LAYS_UNUSUAL_EGGS, how many "eggs" are laid at once? Is it only one, or is it defined in the creature file?

With LAYS_UNUSUAL_EGGS only one item is laid at a time.  CLUTCH_SIZE only matters for normal eggs.

Also perfect!

Anyway, can anyone give me a reason why this is happening?

Spoiler: large images (click to show/hide)

[Kweri]

Give me a hint what the issue is in those screenshots?

[Savolainen5]

What tag do I need to add to a creature such that giant versions of it can appear?

(I'm being stupid and want to mod in Giant Honey Badgers)

Edit: Do I just need to make a separate entry?

[SmokedRWA]

What tags would I need to change, and what would they need to be, if I wanted the Billion bar reaction to yield cave spider silk?

[Putnam]

What tag do I need to add to a creature such that giant versions of it can appear?

(I'm being stupid and want to mod in Giant Honey Badgers)

Edit: Do I just need to make a separate entry?

You already have giant badgers

Anyway...

Code: [Select]

[COPY_TAGS_FROM:HONEY BADGER]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:GIANT]
[NAME:giant honey badger:giant honey badgers:giant honey badger]
[GENERAL_CHILD_NAME:giant honey badger cub:giant honey badger cubs]


Just add that to it's own file. Note that you may have to tinker a bit to get the result wanted.

Give me a hint what the issue is in those screenshots?

The fact that I have a duke, count, and baron on embark.

If it helps, here are the raws for those particular nobles:

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[POSITION:TROLL_DUKE] Duke is fancy blueblood slang. Let's say that!
[NAME_MALE:duke:dukes]
[NAME_FEMALE:duchess:duchesses]
[SPOUSE_MALE:duke consort:dukes consort]
[SPOUSE_FEMALE:duchess consort:duchesses consort]
[SITE]
[LAND_HOLDER:3]
[LAND_NAME:a duchy]
[RESPONSIBILITY:LAW_MAKING]
[RESPONSIBILITY:RECEIVE_DIPLOMATS]
[SUCCESSION:BY_HEIR]
[APPOINTED_BY:MONARCH]
[PRECEDENCE:20]
[MENIAL_WORK_EXEMPTION]
[MENIAL_WORK_EXEMPTION_SPOUSE]
[SLEEP_PRETENSION]
[PUNISHMENT_EXEMPTION]
[FLASHES]
[BRAG_ON_KILL]
[CHAT_WORTHY]
[DO_NOT_CULL]
[KILL_QUEST]
[COLOR:5:0:0]
[ACCOUNT_EXEMPT]
[DUTY_BOUND]
[DEMAND_MAX:5]
[MANDATE_MAX:3]
[REQUIRED_BOXES:5]
[REQUIRED_CABINETS:3]
[REQUIRED_RACKS:3]
[REQUIRED_STANDS:3]
[REQUIRED_OFFICE:2500]
[REQUIRED_BEDROOM:2500]
[REQUIRED_DINING:2500]
[REQUIRED_TOMB:2500]
[ALLOWED_CLASS:TROLL_NOBLE]
[ALLOWED_CLASS:SUBJUGGLATOR]
[ALLOWED_CLASS:TROLL_SEADWELLER]
[ALLOWED_CLASS:TROLL_ROYAL]
[POSITION:TROLL_COUNT]
[NAME_MALE:count:counts]
[NAME_FEMALE:countess:countesses]
[SPOUSE_MALE:count consort:counts consort]
[SPOUSE_FEMALE:countess consort:countesses consort]
[SITE]
[LAND_HOLDER:2]
[LAND_NAME:a county]
[RESPONSIBILITY:LAW_MAKING]
[RESPONSIBILITY:RECEIVE_DIPLOMATS]
[SUCCESSION:BY_HEIR]
[APPOINTED_BY:MONARCH]
[REPLACED_BY:DUKE]
[PRECEDENCE:30]
[MENIAL_WORK_EXEMPTION]
[MENIAL_WORK_EXEMPTION_SPOUSE]
[SLEEP_PRETENSION]
[PUNISHMENT_EXEMPTION]
[FLASHES]
[BRAG_ON_KILL]
[CHAT_WORTHY]
[DO_NOT_CULL]
[KILL_QUEST]
[COLOR:5:0:0]
[ACCOUNT_EXEMPT]
[DUTY_BOUND]
[DEMAND_MAX:3]
[MANDATE_MAX:2]
[REQUIRED_BOXES:3]
[REQUIRED_CABINETS:2]
[REQUIRED_RACKS:2]
[REQUIRED_STANDS:2]
[REQUIRED_OFFICE:1500]
[REQUIRED_BEDROOM:1500]
[REQUIRED_DINING:1500]
[REQUIRED_TOMB:1500]
[ALLOWED_CLASS:TROLL_LIGHT_BLUE]
[ALLOWED_CLASS:TROLL_NOBLE]
[ALLOWED_CLASS:SUBJUGGLATOR]
[ALLOWED_CLASS:TROLL_SEADWELLER]
[ALLOWED_CLASS:TROLL_ROYAL]
[POSITION:TROLL_BARON]
[NAME_MALE:baron:barons]
[NAME_FEMALE:baroness:baronesses]
[SPOUSE_MALE:baron consort:barons consort]
[SPOUSE_FEMALE:baroness consort:baronesses consort]
[SITE]
[LAND_HOLDER:1]
[LAND_NAME:a barony]
[RESPONSIBILITY:LAW_MAKING]
[RESPONSIBILITY:RECEIVE_DIPLOMATS]
[SUCCESSION:BY_HEIR]
[APPOINTED_BY:MONARCH]
[REPLACED_BY:COUNT]
[PRECEDENCE:40]
[MENIAL_WORK_EXEMPTION]
[MENIAL_WORK_EXEMPTION_SPOUSE]
[SLEEP_PRETENSION]
[PUNISHMENT_EXEMPTION]
[FLASHES]
[BRAG_ON_KILL]
[CHAT_WORTHY]
[DO_NOT_CULL]
[KILL_QUEST]
[COLOR:5:0:0]
[ACCOUNT_EXEMPT]
[DUTY_BOUND]
[DEMAND_MAX:2]
[MANDATE_MAX:1]
[REQUIRED_BOXES:2]
[REQUIRED_CABINETS:1]
[REQUIRED_RACKS:1]
[REQUIRED_STANDS:1]
[REQUIRED_OFFICE:500]
[REQUIRED_BEDROOM:500]
[REQUIRED_DINING:500]
[REQUIRED_TOMB:500]
[ALLOWED_CLASS:TROLL_MOTHERGRUBCHILD]
[ALLOWED_CLASS:TROLL_LIGHT_BLUE]
[ALLOWED_CLASS:TROLL_NOBLE]
[ALLOWED_CLASS:SUBJUGGLATOR]
[ALLOWED_CLASS:TROLL_SEADWELLER]
[ALLOWED_CLASS:TROLL_ROYAL]


[Eldrick Tobin]

What tags would I need to change, and what would they need to be, if I wanted the Billion bar reaction to yield cave spider silk?

You change the product line:
From this:   [PRODUCT:100:2:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:BILLON][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
To This:   [PRODUCT:100:1:THREAD:NONE:CREATURE_MAT:SPIDER_CAVE_GIANT:SILK][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:15000]

[Savolainen5]

And now for my next question.  I've been working on removing useless body products and seem to have inadvertently broken something to do with the nail.

Excerpt from the error log: (problem found with creature_domestic)

Code: [Select]

DOG:Tissue layer not added because no BP found: BY_CATEGORY:TOE:NAIL
DOG:Attack SCRATCH seems to have correct format but could not find proper BPs in any caste, so not added(This continues for every other creature that uses nails.)

I've already tried comparing the vanilla raws (the creature_domestic, body_default, and b_detail_plan_default) to my own with no luck, as they seem to look identical. (I'm also cursing myself for not having updated my changelog for that particular day.)

So where do I look to fix this?

[Putnam]

I need help with reactions.

I made two reactions.

Code: [Select]

reaction_troll

[OBJECT:REACTION]

[REACTION:TROLLEGG_TO_STONE]
[NAME:Process organic material into stone]
[BUILDING:EGG_TO_ROCK_WORKSHOP:NONE]
[REAGENT:A:1:LAID_TROLLGOOSE_EGG:GOOSE]
[PRODUCT:100:30:STONE:GOOSE]
[SKILL:MASONRY]
[REACTION:TROLLEGG_TO_BLOCK]
[NAME:Process organic material into block]
[BUILDING:EGG_TO_ROCK_WORKSHOP:NONE]
[REAGENT:A:1:LAID_TROLLGOOSE_EGG:GOOSE]
[PRODUCT:100:30:BLOCKS:GOOSE]
[SKILL:MASONRY]
And here's the building they're assigned to:

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building_troll

[OBJECT:BUILDING]

[BUILDING_WORKSHOP:EGG_TO_ROCK_WORKSHOP]
[NAME:Organic material processing workshop]
[NAME_COLOR:7:0:0]
[DIM:3:3]
[WORK_LOCATION:2:2]
[BUILD_LABOR:MASON]
[BUILD_KEY:NONE]
[BLOCK:1:1:0:1]
[BLOCK:2:0:0:0]
[BLOCK:3:1:0:0]
[TILE:0:1:'\':' ':'\']
[COLOR:0:1:4:0:0:0:0:0:4:0:0]
[TILE:0:2:' ':' ':' ']
[COLOR:0:2:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
[TILE:0:3:'{':' ':'/']
[COLOR:0:3:4:0:0:0:0:0:4:0:0]
[TILE:1:1:'\':' ':'\']
[COLOR:1:1:4:0:0:0:0:0:4:0:0]
[TILE:1:2:' ':' ':' ']
[COLOR:1:2:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
[TILE:1:3:'|':' ':'/']
[COLOR:1:3:4:0:0:0:0:0:4:0:0]
[TILE:2:1:'\':' ':'\']
[COLOR:2:1:4:0:0:0:0:0:4:0:0]
[TILE:2:2:' ':' ':' ']
[COLOR:2:2:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
[TILE:2:3:'}':' ':'/']
[COLOR:2:3:4:0:0:0:0:0:4:0:0]
[TILE:3:1:177:' ':177]
[COLOR:3:1:MAT:0:0:0:MAT]
[TILE:3:2:' ':' ':' '
[COLOR:3:2:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:]
[TILE:3:3:236:' ':/]
[COLOR:3:3:MAT:0:0:0:MAT]
[BUILD_ITEM:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE][BUILDMAT][WORTHLESS_STONE_ONLY][CAN_USE_ARTIFACT]

Now, my problem is that the reactions don't show up on the building. What am I doing wrong?

[narhiril]

Make sure both the building and reactions are permitted in the entity file.

It is possible that even if you have done everything right, the reactions will not appear.  This sometimes happens with custom workshops when they are not assigned hotkeys (it even happens with the soap maker).

change the two lines of...

   [BUILDING:EGG_TO_ROCK_WORKSHOP:NONE]

to (first reaction)...

   [BUILDING:EGG_TO_ROCK_WORKSHOP:CUSTOM_S]

and (second reaction)...

   [BUILDING:EGG_TO_ROCK_WORKSHOP:CUSTOM_B]


... Also something looks a bit off with your reagent and product lines.  I doubt the game will accept LAID_TROLLGOOSE_EGG as an item class (or if it does, I want to know about it).  I am not familiar with using creature mats in reactions, so I'll need to play around a bit to get it right (I'm guessing it's [REAGENT:A:1:EGG:NONE:CREATURE_MAT:(creature ID):NONE] but I could be wrong).

[RogueArchivist]

Could someone please explain what I did wrong with this reaction and how to fix it?

Reaction:

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[REACTION:REFINE_BIOMITE]
    [NAME:Refine biomite into bars]
    [BUILDING:BIOSYNTH:NONE]
    [REAGENT:150:POWDER_MISC:NO_SUBTYPE:PLANT_MAT:PLANT_BIOMITE:MILL]
    [REAGENT:BOX:1:NONE:NONE:NONE]
        [CONTAINS:powder]
        [BAG]
        [PRESERVE_REAGENT]
        [DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
    [REAGENT:1:POWDER_MISC:NONE:INORGANIC:SAND]
    [REAGENT:BOX:1:NONE:NONE:NONE]
        [CONTAINS:powder]
        [BAG]
        [PRESERVE_REAGENT]
        [DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
    [REAGENT:1:honey:150:LIQUID_MISC:NONE:CREATURE_MAT:HONEY_BEE:HONEY]
        [UNROTTEN]
    [REAGENT:honey container:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
        [CONTAINS:honey]
        [PRESERVE_REAGENT]
        [DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
    [REAGENT:1:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:COAL:NO_MATGLOSS]
    [PRODUCT:100:1:BAR:NO_SUB_TYPE:METAL:BIOMITE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]

Errorlog:

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*** Error(s) finalizing the reaction REFINE_BIOMITE
REFINE_BIOMITE:Unrecognized Item Token: NO_SUBTYPE
REFINE_BIOMITE:Unrecognized Material Token: PLANT_BIOMITE
REFINE_BIOMITE:Unrecognized Item Token: 150