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Author Topic: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)  (Read 423192 times)

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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #3315 on: July 19, 2011, 01:49:44 pm »

You need to give us an error log, too, or we won't be able to figure anything out.
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« Reply #3316 on: July 19, 2011, 01:55:04 pm »

You need to give us an error log, too, or we won't be able to figure anything out.
Ah, sorry...

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Looks like I have a typo with the Body, but the rest I'm not sure how to fix, exactly.
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« Reply #3317 on: July 19, 2011, 01:55:59 pm »

Found the error:

You have [BODYHUMANOID_FLIER:TAIL:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS
You're missing a colon between BODY and HUMANOID

[BODY:HUMANOID_FLIER

EDIT:  everything should be because of the BODY typo.  It's causing the tissues not to be applied, which in turn causes the rest of the errors and probably the crash.
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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #3318 on: July 19, 2011, 01:59:42 pm »

Found the error:

You have [BODYHUMANOID_FLIER:TAIL:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS
You're missing a colon between BODY and HUMANOID

[BODY:HUMANOID_FLIER

EDIT:  everything should be because of the BODY typo.  It's causing the tissues not to be applied, which in turn causes the rest of the errors and probably the crash.

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« Reply #3319 on: July 19, 2011, 02:09:58 pm »

Alright, how do you make only a certain part of the body have chitin?  I want the throat to be chitinous ("chitinous windhole"), so is there a way to go about doing that? Would I have to define a new body part?

Possibly by adding:

[ADD_MATERIAL:CHITIN:CHITIN_TEMPLATE]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT:CHITIN:100]

somewhere after [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS:...] in the creature file.  I'm not sure if these tags can be used in the creature definition rather than in b_detail_plan_default however, or what happens if you have BP_LAYERS defined twice for the same category.  Try it and let us know.

That doesn't seem to have worked; the chitin template was already included, but now the throat just has skin and hair (also, what's with the hair?), even though I added that [BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT:CHITIN:100] tag.

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« Reply #3320 on: July 19, 2011, 02:41:16 pm »

Perhaps this instead:

[SELECT_TISSUE_LAYER:THROAT:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT]
[SET_LAYER_TISSUE:CHITIN]
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« Reply #3321 on: July 19, 2011, 03:04:56 pm »

Perhaps this instead:

[SELECT_TISSUE_LAYER:THROAT:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT]
[SET_LAYER_TISSUE:CHITIN]

Well, the throat is now chitinous, but so is everything else. And I do mean everything. So far, I've seen shattered lungs, shattered guts, and I'm sure shattered spleens and shattered thinkpans are going to happen, too.
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« Reply #3322 on: July 19, 2011, 03:14:06 pm »

Okay, when it comes to shearing, I'm an idiot.
I'm attempting to make giant shearable domestic tarantulas.
I made body details, which are the same as the chitin tissues and materials, but with hair in them.
What's wrong with this thing?

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« Reply #3323 on: July 19, 2011, 03:27:46 pm »

Okay, when it comes to shearing, I'm an idiot.
I'm attempting to make giant shearable domestic tarantulas.
I made body details, which are the same as the chitin tissues and materials, but with hair in them.
What's wrong with this thing?

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Here's what I got in the error report:

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*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/creature_domestic.txt"
SPIDER_TARANTULA_GIANT:Unrecognized Creature Token: STATE_NAME
SPIDER_TARANTULA_GIANT:Unrecognized Creature Token: STATE_ADJ
SPIDER_TARANTULA_GIANT:Unrecognized Creature Token: YARN
SPIDER_TARANTULA_GIANT:Unrecognized Creature Token: TISSUE_NAME
SPIDER_TARANTULA_GIANT Color Mod Ending With (BROWN,1) Was Not Used
SPIDER_TARANTULA_GIANT Shearable Tissue LENGTH Was Not Used
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature SPIDER_TARANTULA_GIANT
SPIDER_TARANTULA_GIANT:FEMALE:cephalothorax, layer 1: Tissue CHITIN was not found, using first tissue instead
SPIDER_TARANTULA_GIANT:FEMALE:cephalothorax, layer 2: Tissue FAT was not found, using first tissue instead
SPIDER_TARANTULA_GIANT:FEMALE:cephalothorax, layer 3: Tissue MUSCLE was not found, using first tissue instead

It looks sort of like what happened with my Tunnel Bat; maybe there's a typo somewhere?
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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #3324 on: July 19, 2011, 03:29:27 pm »

Forgot to include the detailplans:
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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #3325 on: July 19, 2011, 03:49:30 pm »

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SPIDER_TARANTULA_GIANT:Unrecognized Creature Token: STATE_NAME
SPIDER_TARANTULA_GIANT:Unrecognized Creature Token: STATE_ADJ
SPIDER_TARANTULA_GIANT:Unrecognized Creature Token: YARN
SPIDER_TARANTULA_GIANT:Unrecognized Creature Token: TISSUE_NAME
Indicates that you failed to use the correct tag in order to start the beginning of a tissue/material template.
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SPIDER_TARANTULA_GIANT Color Mod Ending With (BROWN,1) Was Not UsedThis is the result of a typo. Or perhaps the color mod doesn't tie in to any parts of the creature?
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SPIDER_TARANTULA_GIANT Shearable Tissue LENGTH Was Not UsedNeed to provide growth info and length for the tissue that is to be sheared.
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« Reply #3326 on: July 19, 2011, 04:08:19 pm »

That doesn't seem to have worked; the chitin template was already included, but now the throat just has skin and hair (also, what's with the hair?), even though I added that [BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT:CHITIN:100] tag.

BP_LAYERS only works in body_detail_plan files.  What you want is TISSUE_LAYER.

[TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT:CHITIN], like how toenails etc are done.

Note that you can't set tissue thickness with TISSUE_LAYER  :(.
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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #3327 on: July 19, 2011, 04:08:58 pm »

Perhaps this instead:

[SELECT_TISSUE_LAYER:THROAT:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT]
[SET_LAYER_TISSUE:CHITIN]

Well, the throat is now chitinous, but so is everything else. And I do mean everything. So far, I've seen shattered lungs, shattered guts, and I'm sure shattered spleens and shattered thinkpans are going to happen, too.

Weird. It should be

[SELECT_TISSUE_LAYER:SKIN:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT]
[SET_LAYER_TISSUE:CHITIN]

but that shouldn't turn everything to chitin.

Note that you can't set tissue thickness with TISSUE_LAYER  :(.

[TL_RELATIVE_THICKNESS:x] after select_tissue_layer, or [RELATIVE_THICKNESS:x] after select_tissue should do the trick, similar to how insulation for a few furred creatures is changed.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2011, 04:12:29 pm by Knight Otu »
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« Reply #3328 on: July 19, 2011, 04:16:41 pm »

Ah, good point!  I didn't know that.

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but that shouldn't turn everything to chitin.

I've got a guess what happened here:

[SELECT_TISSUE_LAYER:THROAT:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT]
[SET_LAYER_TISSUE:CHITIN]

Since there is no tissue call THROAT, the SELECT line probably failed, causing SET_LAYER to change all the creature's tissue layers to CHITIN.
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« Reply #3329 on: July 19, 2011, 04:23:06 pm »

Ah, yes, that may be it. I was thinking of the "Tissue X not found, using first tissue instead" style errors, but those probably aren't applicable here.
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