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[High Tensegrity]

Hi everybody.

I'm working on modding a race with fairly complex biology. One such aspect of the race is a caste with a brain divided into two autonomous partitions that can survive without each other, and two helix-like spines that wrap down the torso and abdomen. The idea is that this allows for a level of redundancy, similar to the way you can lop off one of an ettin's heads and it will survive.

Anyhow, I was able to create this and make it work with the following body plans:

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[BODY:HELIX_NECK]
 [BP:NECK:upper left spine helix:STP][CONTYPE:HEAD][NERVOUS]LEFT][INTERNAL][SMALL][SKELETON][CONNECTOR][CATEGORY:SPINE]
  [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:100]
 [BP:NECK:upper right spine helix:STP][CONTYPE:HEAD][NERVOUS]RIGHT][INTERNAL][SMALL][SKELETON][CONNECTOR][CATEGORY:SPINE]
  [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:100]

[BODY:HELIX_SPINE]
 [BP:UPPERSPINE:middle left spine helix:STP][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][NERVOUS]LEFT][INTERNAL][SMALL][SKELETON][CATEGORY:SPINE]
  [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:150]
 [BP:LOWERSPINE:lower left spine helix:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][NERVOUS]LEFT][INTERNAL][SMALL][SKELETON][CONNECTOR][CATEGORY:SPINE]
  [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:150]
 [BP:UPPERSPINE:middle right spine helix:STP][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][NERVOUS]RIGHT][INTERNAL][SMALL][SKELETON][CATEGORY:SPINE]
  [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:150]
 [BP:LOWERSPINE:lower right spine helix:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][NERVOUS]RIGHT][INTERNAL][SMALL][SKELETON][CONNECTOR][CATEGORY:SPINE]
 [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:150]

[BODY:HELIX_BRAIN]
 [BP:BRAIN:left brain partition:STP][CONTYPE:HEAD][THOUGHT]LEFT][INTERNAL][SMALL][CATEGORY:BRAIN]
  [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:200]
 [BP:BRAIN:right brain partition:STP][CONTYPE:HEAD][THOUGHT]RIGHT][INTERNAL][SMALL][CATEGORY:BRAIN]
  [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:200]

Anyway, in arena testing, this works. If you tear open one of the brain partitions, the creature will be knocked unconscious but will get back up after a few turns. However, any time I do this or break one of the upper spine helixes, even if the creature survives it will become winded and crawl around for a while until dying of suffocation.

 I assume this has to do with the way the lungs are connected in the nervous system. It makes sense that the impaired nervous function could cause severe breathing issues, but I would prefer if my creatures were able to survive this trauma. If anyone has any suggestions on how to go about fixing this, I would appreciate it.

[TomiTapio]

I'm working on modding a race with fairly complex biology. One such aspect of the race is a caste with a brain divided into two autonomous partitions that can survive without each other, and two helix-like spines
.. even if the creature survives it will become winded and crawl around for a while until dying of suffocation.

Time to try a custom lung tissue? Four lungs?
Or add [BREATHE] to a fancy new backup organ. Less Vascular number on their tissues perhaps. First I'd try NOEXERT on them.

[High Tensegrity]

I'm working on modding a race with fairly complex biology. One such aspect of the race is a caste with a brain divided into two autonomous partitions that can survive without each other, and two helix-like spines
.. even if the creature survives it will become winded and crawl around for a while until dying of suffocation.

Time to try a custom lung tissue? Four lungs?
Or add [BREATHE] to a fancy new backup organ. Less Vascular number on their tissues perhaps. First I'd try NOEXERT on them.

Thanks for your help! However, I'm afraid I didn't really have much success with these solutions.

1. [NOEXERT] still left them suffocating upon brain and spine injury.
2. I decided to get clever and introduce a new WINDPIPE organ to the head that had the [BREATHE] token. It still happened.

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[BODY:2LUNGSWPIPE]
   [BP:RLUNG:right lung:STP][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][BREATHE][INTERNAL][SMALL]RIGHT][CATEGORY:LUNG]
      [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:200]
   [BP:LLUNG:left lung:STP][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][BREATHE][INTERNAL][SMALL]LEFT][CATEGORY:LUNG]
      [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:200]
   [BP:WINDPIPE:windpipe:STP][CONTYPE:HEAD][BREATHE][INTERNAL][SMALL][CATEGORY:LUNG]
      [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:30]

3. I reduced the vasculature of the lung tissue to 6, but that didn't really seem to change anything.

Right now I'm experimenting to try and find out why an ettin can survive this, but my creature cannot.


EDIT: Nevermind, I fixed it! The "neck's spine" was not accounted for. Everything's under control now.

[thatkid]

I created an entity that should be building cities underground.
However I am not entirely certain how to test this. Any suggestions?

Edit: I did this by combining [DEFAULT_SITE_TYPE:CITY] and [LAYER_LINKED] on an entity who's race lives in layers 1-3.
Does anyone know if it would be better to remove [LAYER_LINKED] and replace it with biome tags for SUBTERRANEAN_CHASM?

[stabbymcstabstab]

that shouldnt work but keep [LAYER_LINKED] and change the biome tags to SUBTERRANEAN_CHASM and then if for some reason it works then post it on every thread name yourself god of modding and im not kidding if this works your either the god of modding or luck to stumble on to some thing toady added to the code and didnt tell us

[Lost_Deep]

I created an entity that should be building cities underground.
However I am not entirely certain how to test this. Any suggestions?

Edit: I did this by combining [DEFAULT_SITE_TYPE:CITY] and [LAYER_LINKED] on an entity who's race lives in layers 1-3.
Does anyone know if it would be better to remove [LAYER_LINKED] and replace it with biome tags for SUBTERRANEAN_CHASM?

If you figure this out, very many people will be very happy. I will be able to mod in deep dwarves and drow! Experiment with it! Record copius data!

S-C-I-E-N-C-E!

But yeah, Biome tags would be worth messing with. Maybe you could get them to build underground forts?

And if you can figure out what [LAYER_LINKED] Actually DOES, that will open up amazing avenues of potential.

[3]

"What LAYER_LINKED actually does" is make the civ show up as animal men civs do. They show up in small "camps" underground and don't show up on civ view screens/menus, etc.. It does nothing more or less that we know of. It can't be combined with other site tokens to any effect.

[Griallia]

What's the difference between good and benign.

[stabbymcstabstab]

good safer begin a has a little mor !!FUN!!

[TomiTapio]

What's the difference between good and benign.

GOOD tag defines that the creature appears in Good Regions. Benign means it's somehow less hostile. Wiki says "Determines whether creature can show up on "tame" maps" (minimum savagery)
EVIL tag limits plant, tree or creature to evil biomes.
Related tags: [USE_GOOD_ANIMALS] [USE_GOOD_PLANTS] [USE_GOOD_WOOD] for entities.

[BodyGripper]

I'm working on an adventure mode reaction that creates a glob, similar to a Magic Missile, only with a syndrome attached.  It also requires reagents, to complete the "spell".  I'm having a problem.
For starters, here's the reaction:

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[REACTION:PREPARE_ENERGY_BLAST]
[NAME:prepare energy (gnomish)]
[ADVENTURE_MODE_ENABLED]
[REAGENT:dream dust:1:POWDER_MISC:NONE:PLANT_MAT:DREAM_BUDS:MILL]
[REAGENT:ruby:1:ROUGH:NONE:INORGANIC:RUBY]
[PRODUCT:100:1:GLOB:NONE:INORGANIC:GNOMISH_ENERGY]
[SKILL:CONCENTRATION]

Now, since the reagents are hard to find, I created two more reactions to summon them for testing, just to make sure it works.

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[REACTION:SUMMON_DREAM_DUST]
[NAME:summon dream dust]
[ADVENTURE_MODE_ENABLED]
[PRODUCT:100:1:POWDER_MISC:NONE:PLANT_MAT:DREAM_BUDS:MILL]
[SKILL:CONCENTRATION](Dream buds are a plant I added)

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[REACTION:SUMMON_RUBY]
[NAME:summon ruby]
[ADVENTURE_MODE_ENABLED]
[PRODUCT:100:1:ROUGH:NONE:INORGANIC:RUBY]
[SKILL:CONCENTRATION]

Now, in arena mode, after I perform the reactions to summon the reagents, I try to "prepare energy", and it says something to the effect of "no item found".  Is the problem in the format of my reactions?  If not, I can post the raws for the materials I added, to see where I messed it up.

On a side note, is there a way to make those items (rubies and "dream dust" powder) appear more frequently in adventure mode?  Or even a way to start with some?

[TomiTapio]

Now, in arena mode, after I perform the reactions to summon the reagents, I try to "prepare energy", and it says something to the effect of "no item found".  Is the problem in the format of my reactions? 
On a side note, is there a way to make those items (rubies and "dream dust" powder) appear more frequently in adventure mode?  Or even a way to start with some?

Are the two reagents in your hands, just like in flint knapping?
I'd try having the reagents be rare minerals, ones that adventurer can pick up from the ground (small rocks). Perhaps "charged loam" and "glittering dust" soils.

[BodyGripper]

I tried again and made sure the reagents were in different hands.  Didn't seem to make a difference.

And thanks for the rare minerals idea - I'll consider it, if I can't find a way to get what I'm looking for.

[D_E]

Does it work if you just use rubies?  It may have trouble spotting the POWDER_MISC as a reagent, doesn't powder that normally come in bags? 

Are you able to pick up the powder?

[BodyGripper]

I tried removing powder, and it worked perfectly.  Is there any way I can make the powder work?
When I summoned the powder, it was just in my hand.