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[Eldrick Tobin]

Greetings Modders,

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(THIS IS OLD STUFF... CLOSE THE SPOILER)I've run out of ideas, and I'm getting even more sick of my cluttered errorlog.txt file. "Disable it!" The errors would still be there. And then I'd stab one of these guys and probably crash something.

So. Over here at this link [url]http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=67002.msg1619002#msg1619002[url], you will find the "Cave Spider Man" -it's the S.L.A.D.E. thread remember. These poor creatures are broken. They have no tissue thickness. And there's a reason why.

They basically have a SECOND SKIN - the costume. They have their own detail plan to make it fit at the cost of cartilage for noses and ears. They have a Silk definition and even a Tissue Layer definition for the Costume itself.

I've done my best -which isn't good enough- over the last several hours solid... and more before then trying to fix them. If they're "reverted to vertebrate_tissue_layers" and the spidey_suit references removed from the creature... all is well. But while I'm running dangerously low on Levity I think it would be Enjoyable to have this oddness working as intended.

A Costume Over a Whacko, as a layer, like a second skin, who hangs out in the caverns -probably near what bit'em in the first place.

At least I fixed the other thing I was working on... [url]http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=67002.msg2136247#msg2136247[url] so I'll not likely have nightmares about flying boxes of ash farting out flying keys hellbent on my destruction. But who knows it's now April Fools day ... they might just come to spook me `-`;

There's a mod in my merged mod that is borking tissue layers that aren't obeying some strategy it has for world domination. Let's Call it... Dr. Forrester.

(Euphemizing... go!)
The Evil Doctor is sending mods at me that I thoroughly enjoy, and sending me messages of new things to add... until BOOM enough things aren't happy that I'm driven insane. It's even recently gotten me to spread this so that more go insane (assuming they try to fix anything).

Now when I want to confront the Doctor with Evidence... he's stolen the evidence, and run off presumably cackling.
(Euphemizing... stop!)

I need to Find Forrester.

As it's body plan, material, tissue, or creature related... can I safely zero in on just those... or could it craftily be in a different scope?

(Sorry for a MST3k and movie title reference in the same post... that's covered in spoiler'd out text... assuming anyone even looks at this.)

I hope you're all having a fine day. The Problem Above? A Body Detail Plan that wasn't in a b_detail_plan*.txt file. Just the format of the file name was enough to break tissues here and there. Too bad it couldn't tell me "Can't Find the Body Detail Plan".

[Seriyu]

Is it possible for a creature to have more then one natural ranged attack?

And if so, will each seperate ranged attack have a different "cooldown"?

IE, if I slap five or six ranged attacks on a creature will it just sit there and unload on anything that comes in range?

[rephikul]

Is it possible for a creature to have more then one natural ranged attack?

And if so, will each seperate ranged attack have a different "cooldown"?

IE, if I slap five or six ranged attacks on a creature will it just sit there and unload on anything that comes in range?

yes and no. It'd just pick one randomly, much like how a dragon randomly alternate between breathing fire and meleeing.

[Internet Kraken]

there's a vanilla example, the cavern thingman civs, they're all only one entity, but there are antman civs, cave swallowman civs, etc.

Ah of course. So much for making a simply multi-race civ. I suppose it's still possible through the use of castes but those are a lot harder to work with for what I have in mind.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

have you looked at darius' dfusion?

[Internet Kraken]

have you looked at darius' dfusion?

I'm not trying to control more than one species, but rather make a hostile civilization that consist of numerous creatures. It can techniacly still be done through use of the caste system, but it will be a lot more confusing.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

eh, can you name one thing that is simple in df?

[Hydrall]

Here they are.

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[ENTITY:SKY]
[INDIV_CONTROLLABLE]
[ADVENTURE_TIER:4]
[CREATURE:KASIYU]
[TRANSLATION:HUMAN]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_FOREST:4]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:MOUNTAIN:3]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_RIVER:1]
[LIKES_SITE:TREE_CITY]
[TOLERATES_SITE:CAVE_DETAILED]
[TOLERATES_SITE:CITY]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE:1]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_POP_SIEGE:3]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_PROD_SIEGE:0]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE_SIEGE:0]
[ACTIVE_SEASON:WINTER]
[START_BIOME:ANY_TROPICAL_FOREST]
[START_GROUP_NUMBER:12]
[MAX_POP_NUMBER:8500]
[MAX_SITE_POP_NUMBER: 115]
[MAX_STARTING_CIV_NUMBER:100]
[DEFAULT_SITE_TYPE:CITY]
[SIEGER]
[MERCHANT_BODYGUARDS]
[WANDERER]
[BEAST_HUNTER]
[SCOUT]
[VARIABLE_POSITIONS:ALL]
[RELIGION:PANTHEON]
[RELIGION_SPHERE:TREES]
[RELIGION_SPHERE:JEWELS]
[RELIGION_SPHERE:TRAVELERS]
[RELIGION_SPHERE:SKY]
[RELIGION_SPHERE:THUNDER]
[RELIGION_SPHERE:MIST]
[RELIGION_SPHERE:MOON]
[GEM_PREF]
[METAL_PREF]
[STONE_PREF]
[OUTDOOR_WOOD]
[OUTDOOR_FARMING]
[USE_ANIMAL_PRODUCTS]
[CURRENCY:BRONZE:4]
[CURRENCY:COPPER:1]
[CURRENCY:SILVER:5]
[CURRENCY:GOLD:15]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_WHIP]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_BATTLE]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MACE]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_BOW]
[AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_ARROWS]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_TRAINING]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT_TRAINING]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR_TRAINING]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_BREASTPLATE:RARE]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_MAIL_SHIRT:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_LEATHER:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_SHIRT:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_CLOAK:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_TUNIC:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_VEST:COMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_HELM:UNCOMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_CAP:COMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_HOOD:UNCOMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_TURBAN:UNCOMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_MASK:RARE]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_VEIL_HEAD:UNCOMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_VEIL_FACE:RARE]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_SCARF_HEAD:UNCOMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SHOES:RARE]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_BOOTS:UNCOMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_BOOTS_LOW:UNCOMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SANDAL:COMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_CHAUSSE:UNCOMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SOCKS:UNCOMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_PANTS:UNCOMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_GREAVES:UNCOMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_LEGGINGS:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_LOINCLOTH:UNCOMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_THONG:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_SKIRT:UNCOMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_SKIRT_SHORT:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_SKIRT_LONG:UNCOMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_BRAIES:UNCOMMON]
[SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_BUCKLER]
[INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_DRUM]
[INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_FLUTE]
[CLOTHING]
[PERMITTED_JOB:MINER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:CARPENTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BOWYER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCUTTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ENGRAVER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:MASON]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_CARETAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_TRAINER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:HUNTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:TRAPPER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_DISSECTOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FURNACE_OPERATOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WEAPONSMITH]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ARMORER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BLACKSMITH]
[PERMITTED_JOB:METALCRAFTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:GEM_CUTTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:GEM_SETTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCRAFTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:STONECRAFTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:LEATHERWORKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BONE_CARVER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WEAVER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:CLOTHIER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:GLASSMAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FISHERMAN]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_DISSECTOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_CLEANER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:CHEESE_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:MILKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:COOK]
[PERMITTED_JOB:THRESHER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:MILLER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BUTCHER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:TANNER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:DYER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:PLANTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:HERBALIST]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BREWER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SOAP_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:POTASH_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:LYE_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WOOD_BURNER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:MECHANIC]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SIEGE_ENGINEER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SIEGE_OPERATOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:PUMP_OPERATOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:CLERK]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ADMINISTRATOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:TRADER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ARCHITECT]
[PERMITTED_JOB:DIAGNOSER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BONE_SETTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SUTURER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SURGEON]
[PERMITTED_JOB:GLAZER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:POTTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:PRESSER]
[PERMITTED_BUILDING:SOAP_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_BUILDING:SCREW_PRESS]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:TAN_A_HIDE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:RENDER_FAT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_SOAP]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRASS_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRASS_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRONZE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRONZE_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:ELECTRUM_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:ELECTRUM_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BILLON_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BILLON_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_FINE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_FINE_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_TRIFLE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_TRIFLE_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_LAY_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BLACK_BRONZE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STERLING_SILVER_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:ROSE_GOLD_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MILL_SEEDS_NUTS_TO_PASTE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_JUG]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_BRICKS]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_STATUE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_LARGE_CLAY_POT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_CRAFTS]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_JUG]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_STATUE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_LARGE_POT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_CRAFT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PRESS_OIL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_HIVE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PRESS_HONEYCOMB]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_WAX_CRAFTS]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:WAR:NAME_WAR]
[SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:WAR:VIOLENT]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:NAME_BATTLE]
[SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:VIOLENT]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:SIEGE:NAME_SIEGE]
[SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:SIEGE:VIOLENT]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:ROAD:NAME_ROAD]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:TUNNEL:NAME_TUNNEL]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:BRIDGE:NAME_BRIDGE]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:WALL:NAME_WALL]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:REMAINING:NATURE]
[CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:SUBORDINATE]
[CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:UNTOWARD]
[CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:NEGATIVE]
[CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:UGLY]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:CIV:NAME_ENTITY_KINGDOM]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:SITE:NAME_ENTITY_TOWN_FOUNDER]
[CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:NEGATOR]
[OUTDOOR_WOOD]
[OUTDOOR_FARMING]
[EQUIPMENT_IMPROVEMENTS]
[ART_IMAGE_ELEMENT_MODIFIER:ITEM:32]
[ART_IMAGE_ELEMENT_MODIFIER:PLANT:384]
[ART_IMAGE_ELEMENT_MODIFIER:TREE:512]
[ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER:JUSTIFIED_IF_SELF_DEFENSE]
[ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:ONLY_IF_SANCTIONED]
[ETHIC:KILL_ENEMY:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_PLANT:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_AS_EXAMPLE:JUSTIFIED_IF_EXTREME_REASON]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_INFORMATION:JUSTIFIED_IF_GOOD_REASON]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_FUN:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_ANIMALS:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:TREASON:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
[ETHIC:OATH_BREAKING:PERSONAL_MATTER]
[ETHIC:LYING:PERSONAL_MATTER]
[ETHIC:VANDALISM:MISGUIDED]
[ETHIC:TRESPASSING:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:THEFT:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:ASSAULT:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:SLAVERY:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_OTHER:SHUN]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:MISGUIDED]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAME_RACE:APPALLING]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAPIENT:SHUN]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
[WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:WALL]
[WILL_ACCEPT_TRIBUTE]
[BUILDS_OUTDOOR_FORTIFICATIONS]
[BANDITRY:8]
I remembered the Active Season tag...

[Eldrick Tobin]

Here they are.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[ENTITY:SKY]
   [INDIV_CONTROLLABLE]
   [ADVENTURE_TIER:4]
   [CREATURE:KASIYU]
   [TRANSLATION:HUMAN]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_FOREST:4]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:MOUNTAIN:3]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_RIVER:1]
   [LIKES_SITE:TREE_CITY]
   [TOLERATES_SITE:CAVE_DETAILED]
   [TOLERATES_SITE:CITY]
   [PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE:1]
   [PROGRESS_TRIGGER_POP_SIEGE:3]
   [PROGRESS_TRIGGER_PROD_SIEGE:0]
   [PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE_SIEGE:0]
   [ACTIVE_SEASON:WINTER]
   [START_BIOME:ANY_TROPICAL_FOREST]
   [START_GROUP_NUMBER:12]
   [MAX_POP_NUMBER:8500]
   [MAX_SITE_POP_NUMBER: 115]
   [MAX_STARTING_CIV_NUMBER:100]
   [DEFAULT_SITE_TYPE:CITY]
   [SIEGER]
   [MERCHANT_BODYGUARDS]
   [WANDERER]
   [BEAST_HUNTER]
   [SCOUT]
   [VARIABLE_POSITIONS:ALL]
   [RELIGION:PANTHEON]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:TREES]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:JEWELS]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:TRAVELERS]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:SKY]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:THUNDER]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:MIST]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:MOON]
   [GEM_PREF]
   [METAL_PREF]
   [STONE_PREF]
   [OUTDOOR_WOOD]
   [OUTDOOR_FARMING]
   [USE_ANIMAL_PRODUCTS]
   [CURRENCY:BRONZE:4]
   [CURRENCY:COPPER:1]
   [CURRENCY:SILVER:5]
   [CURRENCY:GOLD:15]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_WHIP]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_BATTLE]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MACE]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_BOW]
      [AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_ARROWS]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_TRAINING]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT_TRAINING]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR_TRAINING]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_BREASTPLATE:RARE]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_MAIL_SHIRT:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_LEATHER:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_SHIRT:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_CLOAK:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_TUNIC:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_VEST:COMMON]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_HELM:UNCOMMON]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_CAP:COMMON]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_HOOD:UNCOMMON]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_TURBAN:UNCOMMON]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_MASK:RARE]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_VEIL_HEAD:UNCOMMON]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_VEIL_FACE:RARE]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_SCARF_HEAD:UNCOMMON]
   [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SHOES:RARE]
   [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_BOOTS:UNCOMMON]
   [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_BOOTS_LOW:UNCOMMON]
   [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SANDAL:COMMON]
   [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_CHAUSSE:UNCOMMON]
   [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SOCKS:UNCOMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_PANTS:UNCOMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_GREAVES:UNCOMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_LEGGINGS:COMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_LOINCLOTH:UNCOMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_THONG:COMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_SKIRT:UNCOMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_SKIRT_SHORT:COMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_SKIRT_LONG:UNCOMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_BRAIES:UNCOMMON]
   [SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_BUCKLER]
   [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_DRUM]
   [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_FLUTE]
   [CLOTHING]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:MINER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:CARPENTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BOWYER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCUTTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ENGRAVER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:MASON]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_CARETAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_TRAINER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:HUNTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:TRAPPER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_DISSECTOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:FURNACE_OPERATOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WEAPONSMITH]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ARMORER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BLACKSMITH]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:METALCRAFTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:GEM_CUTTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:GEM_SETTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCRAFTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:STONECRAFTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:LEATHERWORKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BONE_CARVER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WEAVER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:CLOTHIER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:GLASSMAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:FISHERMAN]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_DISSECTOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_CLEANER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:CHEESE_MAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:MILKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:COOK]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:THRESHER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:MILLER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BUTCHER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:TANNER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:DYER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:PLANTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:HERBALIST]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BREWER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:SOAP_MAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:POTASH_MAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:LYE_MAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WOOD_BURNER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:MECHANIC]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:SIEGE_ENGINEER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:SIEGE_OPERATOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:PUMP_OPERATOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:CLERK]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ADMINISTRATOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:TRADER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ARCHITECT]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:DIAGNOSER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BONE_SETTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:SUTURER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:SURGEON]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:GLAZER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:POTTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:PRESSER]
   [PERMITTED_BUILDING:SOAP_MAKER]
   [PERMITTED_BUILDING:SCREW_PRESS]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:TAN_A_HIDE]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:RENDER_FAT]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_SOAP]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:BRASS_MAKING]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:BRASS_MAKING2]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:BRONZE_MAKING]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:BRONZE_MAKING2]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:ELECTRUM_MAKING]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:ELECTRUM_MAKING2]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:BILLON_MAKING]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:BILLON_MAKING2]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_FINE_MAKING]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_FINE_MAKING2]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_TRIFLE_MAKING]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_TRIFLE_MAKING2]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_LAY_MAKING]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:BLACK_BRONZE_MAKING]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:STERLING_SILVER_MAKING]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:ROSE_GOLD_MAKING]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:MILL_SEEDS_NUTS_TO_PASTE]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_JUG]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_BRICKS]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_STATUE]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_LARGE_CLAY_POT]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_CRAFTS]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_JUG]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_STATUE]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_LARGE_POT]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_CRAFT]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:PRESS_OIL]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_HIVE]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:PRESS_HONEYCOMB]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_WAX_CRAFTS]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:WAR:NAME_WAR]
   [SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:WAR:VIOLENT]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:NAME_BATTLE]
   [SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:VIOLENT]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:SIEGE:NAME_SIEGE]
   [SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:SIEGE:VIOLENT]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:ROAD:NAME_ROAD]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:TUNNEL:NAME_TUNNEL]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:BRIDGE:NAME_BRIDGE]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:WALL:NAME_WALL]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:REMAINING:NATURE]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:SUBORDINATE]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:UNTOWARD]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:NEGATIVE]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:UGLY]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:CIV:NAME_ENTITY_KINGDOM]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:SITE:NAME_ENTITY_TOWN_FOUNDER]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:NEGATOR]
   [OUTDOOR_WOOD]
   [OUTDOOR_FARMING]
   [EQUIPMENT_IMPROVEMENTS]
   [ART_IMAGE_ELEMENT_MODIFIER:ITEM:32]
   [ART_IMAGE_ELEMENT_MODIFIER:PLANT:384]
   [ART_IMAGE_ELEMENT_MODIFIER:TREE:512]
   [ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER:JUSTIFIED_IF_SELF_DEFENSE]
   [ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:ONLY_IF_SANCTIONED]
   [ETHIC:KILL_ENEMY:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:KILL_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:KILL_PLANT:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:TORTURE_AS_EXAMPLE:JUSTIFIED_IF_EXTREME_REASON]
   [ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_INFORMATION:JUSTIFIED_IF_GOOD_REASON]
   [ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_FUN:UNTHINKABLE]
   [ETHIC:TORTURE_ANIMALS:UNTHINKABLE]
   [ETHIC:TREASON:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
   [ETHIC:OATH_BREAKING:PERSONAL_MATTER]
   [ETHIC:LYING:PERSONAL_MATTER]
   [ETHIC:VANDALISM:MISGUIDED]
   [ETHIC:TRESPASSING:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
   [ETHIC:THEFT:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
   [ETHIC:ASSAULT:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
   [ETHIC:SLAVERY:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
   [ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_OTHER:SHUN]
   [ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:MISGUIDED]
   [ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAME_RACE:APPALLING]
   [ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAPIENT:SHUN]
   [ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
   [WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:WALL]
   [WILL_ACCEPT_TRIBUTE]
   [BUILDS_OUTDOOR_FORTIFICATIONS]
   [BANDITRY:8]

I remembered the Active Season tag...

Trying to be helpful instead of just freaking out. Ahem

Let's see... [Indiv_Controllable]... Adventure Mode only? What else... You have [OUTDOOR_WOOD] [OUTDOOR_FARMING] twice. I suspect the siege lines are fine... as for the trade... I just plop this:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

   [PROGRESS_TRIGGER_POPULATION:1]
   [PROGRESS_TRIGGER_PRODUCTION:1]
   [PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE:0]

on everyone. My two civs show up in whichever season I have them set at the time (I've used Summer and I think I use Winter now). Not sure how helpful this was, but it's worked for me every time. Not sure what if anything is defaulted for POPULATION and PRODUCTION if not declared.

And of course they could be murdering the countryside and just might not arrive. At least they shouldn't be like Elves have been for me. Two seasons late because they might as well have brought every beast they could fill with them. 8 to 10 *loaded* animals slowly trudging over the world map.

That's it for my sensible suggestions.

[narhiril]

Here they are.

Code: [Select]

[ENTITY:SKY]
[INDIV_CONTROLLABLE]
[ADVENTURE_TIER:4]
[CREATURE:KASIYU]
[TRANSLATION:HUMAN]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_FOREST:4]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:MOUNTAIN:3]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_RIVER:1]
[LIKES_SITE:TREE_CITY]
[TOLERATES_SITE:CAVE_DETAILED]
[TOLERATES_SITE:CITY]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE:1]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_POP_SIEGE:3]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_PROD_SIEGE:0]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE_SIEGE:0]
[ACTIVE_SEASON:WINTER]
[START_BIOME:ANY_TROPICAL_FOREST]
[START_GROUP_NUMBER:12]
[MAX_POP_NUMBER:8500]
[MAX_SITE_POP_NUMBER: 115]
[MAX_STARTING_CIV_NUMBER:100]
[DEFAULT_SITE_TYPE:CITY]
[SIEGER]
[MERCHANT_BODYGUARDS]
[WANDERER]
[BEAST_HUNTER]
[SCOUT]
[VARIABLE_POSITIONS:ALL]
[RELIGION:PANTHEON]
[RELIGION_SPHERE:TREES]
[RELIGION_SPHERE:JEWELS]
[RELIGION_SPHERE:TRAVELERS]
[RELIGION_SPHERE:SKY]
[RELIGION_SPHERE:THUNDER]
[RELIGION_SPHERE:MIST]
[RELIGION_SPHERE:MOON]
[GEM_PREF]
[METAL_PREF]
[STONE_PREF]
[OUTDOOR_WOOD]
[OUTDOOR_FARMING]
[USE_ANIMAL_PRODUCTS]
[CURRENCY:BRONZE:4]
[CURRENCY:COPPER:1]
[CURRENCY:SILVER:5]
[CURRENCY:GOLD:15]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_WHIP]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_BATTLE]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MACE]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_BOW]
[AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_ARROWS]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_TRAINING]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT_TRAINING]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR_TRAINING]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_BREASTPLATE:RARE]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_MAIL_SHIRT:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_LEATHER:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_SHIRT:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_CLOAK:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_TUNIC:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_VEST:COMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_HELM:UNCOMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_CAP:COMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_HOOD:UNCOMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_TURBAN:UNCOMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_MASK:RARE]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_VEIL_HEAD:UNCOMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_VEIL_FACE:RARE]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_SCARF_HEAD:UNCOMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SHOES:RARE]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_BOOTS:UNCOMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_BOOTS_LOW:UNCOMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SANDAL:COMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_CHAUSSE:UNCOMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SOCKS:UNCOMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_PANTS:UNCOMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_GREAVES:UNCOMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_LEGGINGS:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_LOINCLOTH:UNCOMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_THONG:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_SKIRT:UNCOMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_SKIRT_SHORT:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_SKIRT_LONG:UNCOMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_BRAIES:UNCOMMON]
[SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_BUCKLER]
[INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_DRUM]
[INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_FLUTE]
[CLOTHING]
[PERMITTED_JOB:MINER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:CARPENTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BOWYER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCUTTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ENGRAVER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:MASON]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_CARETAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_TRAINER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:HUNTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:TRAPPER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_DISSECTOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FURNACE_OPERATOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WEAPONSMITH]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ARMORER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BLACKSMITH]
[PERMITTED_JOB:METALCRAFTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:GEM_CUTTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:GEM_SETTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCRAFTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:STONECRAFTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:LEATHERWORKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BONE_CARVER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WEAVER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:CLOTHIER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:GLASSMAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FISHERMAN]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_DISSECTOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_CLEANER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:CHEESE_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:MILKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:COOK]
[PERMITTED_JOB:THRESHER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:MILLER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BUTCHER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:TANNER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:DYER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:PLANTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:HERBALIST]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BREWER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SOAP_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:POTASH_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:LYE_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WOOD_BURNER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:MECHANIC]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SIEGE_ENGINEER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SIEGE_OPERATOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:PUMP_OPERATOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:CLERK]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ADMINISTRATOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:TRADER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ARCHITECT]
[PERMITTED_JOB:DIAGNOSER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BONE_SETTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SUTURER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SURGEON]
[PERMITTED_JOB:GLAZER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:POTTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:PRESSER]
[PERMITTED_BUILDING:SOAP_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_BUILDING:SCREW_PRESS]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:TAN_A_HIDE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:RENDER_FAT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_SOAP]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRASS_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRASS_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRONZE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRONZE_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:ELECTRUM_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:ELECTRUM_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BILLON_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BILLON_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_FINE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_FINE_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_TRIFLE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_TRIFLE_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_LAY_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BLACK_BRONZE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STERLING_SILVER_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:ROSE_GOLD_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MILL_SEEDS_NUTS_TO_PASTE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_JUG]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_BRICKS]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_STATUE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_LARGE_CLAY_POT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_CRAFTS]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_JUG]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_STATUE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_LARGE_POT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_CRAFT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PRESS_OIL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_HIVE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PRESS_HONEYCOMB]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_WAX_CRAFTS]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:WAR:NAME_WAR]
[SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:WAR:VIOLENT]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:NAME_BATTLE]
[SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:VIOLENT]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:SIEGE:NAME_SIEGE]
[SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:SIEGE:VIOLENT]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:ROAD:NAME_ROAD]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:TUNNEL:NAME_TUNNEL]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:BRIDGE:NAME_BRIDGE]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:WALL:NAME_WALL]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:REMAINING:NATURE]
[CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:SUBORDINATE]
[CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:UNTOWARD]
[CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:NEGATIVE]
[CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:UGLY]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:CIV:NAME_ENTITY_KINGDOM]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:SITE:NAME_ENTITY_TOWN_FOUNDER]
[CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:NEGATOR]
[OUTDOOR_WOOD]
[OUTDOOR_FARMING]
[EQUIPMENT_IMPROVEMENTS]
[ART_IMAGE_ELEMENT_MODIFIER:ITEM:32]
[ART_IMAGE_ELEMENT_MODIFIER:PLANT:384]
[ART_IMAGE_ELEMENT_MODIFIER:TREE:512]
[ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER:JUSTIFIED_IF_SELF_DEFENSE]
[ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:ONLY_IF_SANCTIONED]
[ETHIC:KILL_ENEMY:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_PLANT:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_AS_EXAMPLE:JUSTIFIED_IF_EXTREME_REASON]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_INFORMATION:JUSTIFIED_IF_GOOD_REASON]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_FUN:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_ANIMALS:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:TREASON:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
[ETHIC:OATH_BREAKING:PERSONAL_MATTER]
[ETHIC:LYING:PERSONAL_MATTER]
[ETHIC:VANDALISM:MISGUIDED]
[ETHIC:TRESPASSING:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:THEFT:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:ASSAULT:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:SLAVERY:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_OTHER:SHUN]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:MISGUIDED]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAME_RACE:APPALLING]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAPIENT:SHUN]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
[WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:WALL]
[WILL_ACCEPT_TRIBUTE]
[BUILDS_OUTDOOR_FORTIFICATIONS]
[BANDITRY:8]
I remembered the Active Season tag...

I am having trouble duplicating the problem.  One of my custom civilizations usually has a "No Trade" tag next to it, but yours is coming up just like anything else.  I have gen'd 4 worlds so far with the same results.

The only line I have changed is [CREATURE:KASIYU] to a renamed human creature [CREATURE:HUMAN_CLONE].

In other news, I noticed that your entity file is missing a [DIGGER] item and [USE_MISC_PROCESSED_WOOD_PRODUCTS], which is required for fuel.

[Hydrall]

Could it be something to do with the creature...? I can't understand why that would be, though...

[Seriyu]

Is it possible for a creature to have more then one natural ranged attack?

And if so, will each seperate ranged attack have a different "cooldown"?

IE, if I slap five or six ranged attacks on a creature will it just sit there and unload on anything that comes in range?

yes and no. It'd just pick one randomly, much like how a dragon randomly alternate between breathing fire and meleeing.

I see, thanks. It'll have to do I suppose.

[Passive Fist]

Hi. Due to my fort's abundance of lead and nothing worth making sharp objects with, I am trying to make lead a valid weapon trap component (spiked balls). I added [ITEMS_WEAPON] to the LEAD entry in inorganic_metal but that didn't seem to do anything. What do I do next?

By the way is there a FAQ for basic modding like this? Seems like the kind of question that would get asked every few pages.

Quoting myself because I got bottompaged, any help here?

[Sutremaine]

Just tested it quickly, looks as though it needs a regen to trigger the hardcoded forge reactions.

You can always hijack and rename an existing reaction.

[Dwarfu]

Is there any functionality that I'm missing to create submenus on the custom keys for workshops?

I've moved all plant products (drinks, milled products, etc.) to individual reactions so I can order specific items, but having submenus would help tremendously (such as putting all the flour or dye under their own menus instead of one big list.  I know some of the hard-coded workshops have them, but that's probably because the submenus are hard-coded.