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Author Topic: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)  (Read 430247 times)

Halnoth

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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #990 on: October 31, 2010, 08:59:21 pm »

Stupid question, but did you generate a new world to test that? I'm pretty certain that about any entity change won't impact running games.

No I didn't, but that isn't the case anyway. You can edit any already existing entities, you just can't add new ones or delete ones currently existing.
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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #991 on: October 31, 2010, 09:13:53 pm »

To be fair a lot of modding stuff does still require a regen even if it's a modification of an existing entry.   And entity modifications actually require a regen more often than not since a lot of entity information is stored during worldgen.

I don't think your modifications would require that though.  Did you remove the trading and meet diplomat stuff from the main raws AND the raws for the save itself?  Remember that saves store their own raws now, so none of your raw modifications will effect an existing world unless you also change the raws within the save's folder.
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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #992 on: November 01, 2010, 12:02:33 am »

Ya I always use the save updated whenever I make a change. I wonder, is the Law-making tag responsible for that?

I don't think these changes require a regen since I have added the trade token to my book keeper in the past to get around the broker break syndrome.
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One of the dwarfs walked in front of Thor to get a better view of the prye, and Thor kicked him irritably into the middle of the flames, which made Thor feel slightly better and made all the dwarfs feel much worse.

Cloth Armor Mod http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=158967.msg7063531#msg7063531

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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #993 on: November 01, 2010, 12:37:35 am »

Is there a program that can output raw files, say, for creatures or civs?
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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #994 on: November 01, 2010, 01:46:30 am »

I have a few questions.

Is there a way I can allow my dwarfs to make scourges and whips? I looked at the raws, but I couldn't understand it.
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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #995 on: November 01, 2010, 01:49:28 am »

I have a few questions.

Is there a way I can allow my dwarfs to make scourges and whips? I looked at the raws, but I couldn't understand it.

Open the entity_default raw.

Pretty much anywhere among the cluster of [WEAPON:X] tags under the [ENTITY:MOUNTAIN] tag, add:

[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SCOURGE]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_WHIP]


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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #996 on: November 01, 2010, 01:58:43 am »

I have a few questions.

Is there a way I can allow my dwarfs to make scourges and whips? I looked at the raws, but I couldn't understand it.

Open the entity_default raw.

Pretty much anywhere among the cluster of [WEAPON:X] tags under the [ENTITY:MOUNTAIN] tag, add:

[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SCOURGE]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_WHIP]


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Does it matter where I place it in the file? Also, thanks, I assumed it would be in item_weapon

I put in in but it's not appearing on the magma forge.
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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #997 on: November 01, 2010, 02:57:57 am »

I have a few questions.

Is there a way I can allow my dwarfs to make scourges and whips? I looked at the raws, but I couldn't understand it.

Open the entity_default raw.

Pretty much anywhere among the cluster of [WEAPON:X] tags under the [ENTITY:MOUNTAIN] tag, add:

[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SCOURGE]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_WHIP]


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Question: Is there a program that can output raw files, say, for creatures or civs?

Does it matter where I place it in the file? Also, thanks, I assumed it would be in item_weapon

I put in in but it's not appearing on the magma forge.

You need to generate a new world.

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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #998 on: November 01, 2010, 03:21:14 am »

Oh crap, I think I need should have kept copies of of everything I messed with.
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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #999 on: November 01, 2010, 08:06:42 am »

Question: Is there a program that can output raw files, say, for creatures or civs?
My Uplift Engine script creates new raw files for procedurally generated animalperson creatures and civilizations:

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=3117
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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #1000 on: November 03, 2010, 02:26:57 am »

Okay. A few weeks back I finished mah big mod based on a random idea, based on "what if this game was to be played DF-style".

So there's like 30 civ's and 200+ creatures that I whipped up to inhabit the world. Initial tests showed promising results, no sudden crashes and so on.

Longer tests however did suddenly start crashing for no apparent reason.
Of course, there's nothing in the error logs. I regenned a test world last night and will start a new fort to do my testing today in case it was something that I noticed during earlier testing and "fixed" but actually required a regen that I obviously didn't do until now.

So what are the things that could possibly cause a game to have a sudden crash with no warning or reason? The civ's use gear straight from vanilla DF, although I made up a big list of about 100+ artifact-only weapons that can be made by moods, there's a bunch of normal creatures, scaled ones or those with skin that turns to leather, but after a long trial of messing about I was able to make critters "close enough" to undeads, that don't have skin or fat on their bodies, just bones and all the rest.

If I'm lucky it was just a screwup because of a lack of regen, if I'm unlucky, then I'm stumped. Which isn't that hard when you have a crapload of creatures and one or some of them are causing issues.

The creatures work like they should in arena testing though.
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« Reply #1001 on: November 03, 2010, 06:54:11 am »

After a long period of testing, I've discovered that the flame template can't work.  It has no melting or boiling points, so everything is considered "solid".  I've made a template that has lower-than-fixed-temp igniting and melting points, we'll see how that goes.  -goes to test-

Edit: Nope.  Still solid.  Hmmn.

That's strange. The [TISSUE_TEMPLATE:FLAME_TEMPLATE] entry actually has [TISSUE_MAT_STATE:GAS] set ... no idea what the corresponding tag would be for [MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:FLAME_TEMPLATE] though. The wiki page lists some undocumented ones, like [OVERWRITE_SOLID], I'd try that, maybe.
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« Reply #1002 on: November 03, 2010, 08:08:00 pm »

I have a slight problem, after adding a modded creature in, and when I gen a new world all civilizations are it's and cave crocodiles. I removed the modded creature but the problem keeps happening, and the creatures still there.
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« Reply #1003 on: November 03, 2010, 08:09:53 pm »

Check errorlog.txt for duplicate raw entries, removing any that it points you to.
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« Reply #1004 on: November 03, 2010, 08:27:45 pm »

I can't find any thing wrong.
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