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[katana]

Ok. It's just a bit weird, since I copied frequency from plump helmets.

EDIT: and they still don't pop up.

EDIT2: plant raws:

Code: [Select]


[OBJECT:PLANT]

[PLANT:BERRIES_HOPPER_SL]
//AKA nirakznoo :3
[NAME:hopper berry][NAME_PLURAL:wild hopperberries][ADJ:hopper berry]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
[EDIBLE_VERMIN]
[EDIBLE_RAW]
[EDIBLE_COOKED]
[BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
[PICKED_TILE:58][PICKED_COLOR:4:0:0]
[DRY][BIOME:NOT_FREEZING]
[VALUE:2]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:DRINK:PLANT_ALCOHOL_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen hopper juice]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:hopper juice]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:boiling juice]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:5:0:1]
[EDIBLE_RAW]
[EDIBLE_COOKED]
[PREFIX:NONE]
[DRINK:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:DRINK]
[SPRING][SUMMER][AUTUMN]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SEED:SEED_TEMPLATE]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:1]
[EDIBLE_COOKED]
[SEED:hopper berry seed:hopper berry seeds:0:0:1:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:SEED]
[FREQUENCY:100]
[CLUSTERSIZE:10]
[PREFSTRING:tangy flavor]

[PLANT:VINE_EMERALD_SL]
[NAME:emerald vine][NAME_PLURAL:emerald vines][ADJ:emerald vine]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:1]
[BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
[PICKED_TILE:159][PICKED_COLOR:2:0:0]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:DRINK:PLANT_ALCOHOL_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen emerald wine]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:emerald wine]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:boiling emerald wine]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:6:0:1]
[EDIBLE_RAW]
[EDIBLE_COOKED]
[PREFIX:NONE]
[DRINK:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:DRINK]
[WET][BIOME:NOT_FREEZING][DRY]
[VALUE:1]
[SPRING][SUMMER][AUTUMN][WINTER]
[FREQUENCY:100]
[CLUSTERSIZE:10]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:THREAD:THREAD_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:1]
[THREAD:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:THREAD]
[PREFSTRING:bright color]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SEED:SEED_TEMPLATE]
[EDIBLE_VERMIN]
[EDIBLE_COOKED]
[SEED:emerald vine seed:emerald vine seeds:6:0:0:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:SEED]

[PLANT:PURPLE_CAP_PLANT_SL]
[NAME:dwarf cap][NAME_PLURAL:dwarf caps][ADJ:dwarf cap]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
[BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
[EDIBLE_RAW]
[EDIBLE_COOKED]
[PICKED_TILE:6][PICKED_COLOR:5:0:0]
[GROWDUR:3000][VALUE:2]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:DRINK:PLANT_ALCOHOL_TEMPLATE]
The material template is just called "alcohol" so we need to give it a proper name.
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen cap wine]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:cap wine]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:boiling cap wine]
We also set a few more numbers to distinguish the alcohol from the template.
[MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:5:0:0]
[EDIBLE_RAW]
[EDIBLE_COOKED]
[PREFIX:NONE]
[DRINK:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:DRINK]

[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SEED:SEED_TEMPLATE]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:1]
[EDIBLE_VERMIN]
[EDIBLE_COOKED]
[SEED:dwarf cap spawn:dwarf cap spawn:4:0:1:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:SEED]
[SPRING][SUMMER][AUTUMN][WINTER]
[FREQUENCY:100]
[CLUSTERSIZE:2]
[PREFSTRING:great size]
[WET][DRY]
[BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_WATER]
[UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:1:3]
[SHRUB_TILE:58]
[DEAD_SHRUB_TILE:58]
[SHRUB_COLOR:5:0:0]
[DEAD_SHRUB_COLOR:0:0:1]

[PLANT:PURPLE_CAP_SL]
[NAME:giant dwarf cap][NAME_PLURAL:giant dwarf caps][ADJ:giant dwarf cap]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
[BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:WOOD:WOOD_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:purple-cap]
[STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:purple-cap]
[PREFIX:NONE]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:PURPLE]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:5:0:1]
[TREE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:WOOD][TREE_TILE:6]
[PREFSTRING:purple wood]
[BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_WATER]
[UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:1:3]
[WET][DRY]
[SOLID_DENSITY:600]
[TREE_COLOR:7:0:1]
[DEAD_TREE_COLOR:0:0:1]
[SAPLING_COLOR:7:0:1]
[DEAD_SAPLING_COLOR:0:0:1]


[Trapezohedron]

IIRC, the plump helmets only appear where there is cave grass, therefore, SUBTERRANEAN_WATER.
Your civ must've settled in an area of SUBTERRANEAN_CHASM.

[katana]

But how come there were plump helmets on embark then?

[Trapezohedron]

I'm not really sure now. I'm not an expert in plant modding, and you say you copied it from plumpies?

You might as well check for differences in that plant and the plump helmet, see why it appears.

I'll see what I can do with that, after I download the vanilla version again... (using genesis mod currently)

[arclance]

Ok. It's just a bit weird, since I copied frequency from plump helmets.

EDIT: and they still don't pop up.

EDIT2: plant raws:

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[OBJECT:PLANT]

[PLANT:PURPLE_CAP_PLANT_SL]
[NAME:dwarf cap][NAME_PLURAL:dwarf caps][ADJ:dwarf cap]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
[BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
[EDIBLE_RAW]
[EDIBLE_COOKED]
[PICKED_TILE:6][PICKED_COLOR:5:0:0]
[GROWDUR:3000][VALUE:2]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:DRINK:PLANT_ALCOHOL_TEMPLATE]
The material template is just called "alcohol" so we need to give it a proper name.
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen cap wine]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:cap wine]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:boiling cap wine]
We also set a few more numbers to distinguish the alcohol from the template.
[MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:5:0:0]
[EDIBLE_RAW]
[EDIBLE_COOKED]
[PREFIX:NONE]
[DRINK:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:DRINK]

[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SEED:SEED_TEMPLATE]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:1]
[EDIBLE_VERMIN]
[EDIBLE_COOKED]
[SEED:dwarf cap spawn:dwarf cap spawn:4:0:1:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:SEED]
[SPRING][SUMMER][AUTUMN][WINTER]
[FREQUENCY:100]
[CLUSTERSIZE:2]
[PREFSTRING:great size]
[WET][DRY]
[BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_WATER]
[UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:1:3]
[SHRUB_TILE:58]
[DEAD_SHRUB_TILE:58]
[SHRUB_COLOR:5:0:0]
[DEAD_SHRUB_COLOR:0:0:1]


It might be that space you have in your dwarf cap raw.
It also might be where you have [EDIBLE_RAW] and [EDIBLE_COOKED] after [BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL] I don't think you can put those there.
I think your raws should look like this.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[PLANT:PURPLE_CAP_PLANT_SL]
   [NAME:dwarf cap][NAME_PLURAL:dwarf caps][ADJ:dwarf cap]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
      [EDIBLE_RAW]
      [EDIBLE_COOKED]
   [BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
   [PICKED_TILE:6][PICKED_COLOR:5:0:0]
   [GROWDUR:3000][VALUE:2]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:DRINK:PLANT_ALCOHOL_TEMPLATE]
      The material template is just called "alcohol" so we need to give it a proper name.
      [STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen cap wine]
      [STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:cap wine]
      [STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:boiling cap wine]
      We also set a few more numbers to distinguish the alcohol from the template.
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
      [DISPLAY_COLOR:5:0:0]
      [EDIBLE_RAW]
      [EDIBLE_COOKED]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
   [DRINK:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:DRINK]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SEED:SEED_TEMPLATE]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:1]
      [EDIBLE_VERMIN]
      [EDIBLE_COOKED]
   [SEED:dwarf cap spawn:dwarf cap spawn:4:0:1:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:SEED]
   [SPRING][SUMMER][AUTUMN][WINTER]
   [FREQUENCY:100]
   [CLUSTERSIZE:2]
   [PREFSTRING:great size]
   [WET][DRY]
   [BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_WATER]
   [UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:1:3]
   [SHRUB_TILE:58]
   [DEAD_SHRUB_TILE:58]
   [SHRUB_COLOR:5:0:0]
   [DEAD_SHRUB_COLOR:0:0:1]

You will need to generate a new world to test this.

If that does not work here are the raws from my glue cap plant which does work for comparison.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[PLANT:GLUE_CAP]
        [NAME:glue cap][NAME_PLURAL:glue caps][ADJ:glue cap]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
   [BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
   [PICKED_TILE:130][PICKED_COLOR:3:0:0][DEAD_PICKED_TILE:29]
   [GROWDUR:300][VALUE:2]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:GLUE:GLUE_CAP_GLUE_TEMPLATE]
      [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:solid]
      [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:solid]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:DRINK:PLANT_ALCOHOL_TEMPLATE]
      [STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen glueshine]
      [STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:glueshine]
      [STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:boiling glueshine]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:3]
      [DISPLAY_COLOR:3:0:0]
      [EDIBLE_RAW]
      [EDIBLE_COOKED]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
   [DRINK:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:DRINK]      
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SEED:SEED_TEMPLATE]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:1]
      [EDIBLE_VERMIN]
   [SEED:glue cap seed:glue cap seeds:0:0:1:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:SEED]
   [SUMMER][AUTUMN]
   [FREQUENCY:100]
   [CLUSTERSIZE:5]
   [PREFSTRING:driping excretions]
   [WET][DRY]
   [BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_WATER]
   [UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:1:3]
   [SHRUB_TILE:130]
   [DEAD_SHRUB_TILE:29]
   [SHRUB_COLOR:3:0:0]
   [DEAD_SHRUB_COLOR:6:0:0]

[katana]

lul, glueshine.

Thanks!

[TomiTapio]

Thought about workshop failures. Came up with these options:
1. a fire starts
2. a deadly contact poison is created (or maybe freezing)
3. a mild poison, bleeding bruising pain, off to hospital for a month
4. created debris, 10 to 30 unwanted junk toys called "scraps" which is an annoyance.
5. created something nasty smelling rotting organic, get miasma soon

Too bad the debris might hurt FPS too much. But would be nice that the failure in workshop made the workshop slower/cluttered!
Heyyy should have a zero-value stone for those junk toys. Anyone already have a no-value stone?

Modders: noticed there's a [NOT_IMPROVED] tag, might be useful for the attach-bayonet-to-crossbow reaction.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[REACTION:GLAZE_LARGE_POT]
   [NAME:glaze large clay/stone pot]
   [BUILDING:KILN:CUSTOM_P]
   [REAGENT:glaze:1:BOULDER:NONE:NONE:NONE][REACTION_CLASS:GLAZE]
   [REAGENT:large pot:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_LARGE_POT:NONE:NONE]
      [REACTION_CLASS:CAN_GLAZE]
      [EMPTY]
      [NOT_IMPROVED]
      [PRESERVE_REAGENT]
   [IMPROVEMENT:100:large pot:GLAZED:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:glaze:GLAZE_MAT]
   [FUEL]
   [SKILL:GLAZING]

[Angel Of Death]

Will this creature show up in 40d and if so, how often?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[CREATURE:WARSECT_SKULL]
   [NAME:skull beetle:skull beetles:skull beetle]
   [TILE:'B'][COLOR:7:0:1]
   [LARGE_ROAMING] [CHITIN]
   [POPULATION_NUMBER:5:3]
   [CLUSTER_NUMBER:5:10]
   [LARGE_ROAMING][DIFFICULTY:2]
        [BENIGN][MEANDERER]
   [PETVALUE:1500]
   [GRASSTRAMPLE:0]
   [PREFSTRING:long horns]
   [NATURAL][PET_EXOTIC][SAVAGE][LARGE_PREDATOR]
   [BODY:HUMANOID:2WINGS:2EYES:2EARS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:2HEAD_HORN:MOUTH]
   [BODYGLOSS:CLAW]
   [MAXAGE:10:20]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:STANCE:bite:bites:8:8:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
   [CHILD:1][CHILDNAME:skull beetle spawn:skull beetle spawns]
   [SIZE:10]
   [FAT:2]
   [DIURNAL]
   [BIOME:MOUNTAIN]
   [STANDARD_FLESH]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10067]
   [LAYERING:200]
   [MUNDANE]

[jaxy15]

Hi, it's me again.
Just wondering, is it possible to give gloves an attack?

[thatkid]

Hi, it's me again.
Just wondering, is it possible to give gloves an attack?

Nope. Because then they're no longer gloves, they're weapons.

However you can make a Boxing Gloves item which requires the dwarf to use both hands to wield it, and uses the striking skill.

[Haspen]

Will this creature show up in 40d and if so, how often?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[CREATURE:WARSECT_SKULL]
   [NAME:skull beetle:skull beetles:skull beetle]
   [TILE:'B'][COLOR:7:0:1]
   [LARGE_ROAMING] [CHITIN]
   [POPULATION_NUMBER:5:3]
   [CLUSTER_NUMBER:5:10]
   [LARGE_ROAMING][DIFFICULTY:2]
        [BENIGN][MEANDERER]
   [PETVALUE:1500]
   [GRASSTRAMPLE:0]
   [PREFSTRING:long horns]
   [NATURAL][PET_EXOTIC][SAVAGE][LARGE_PREDATOR]
   [BODY:HUMANOID:2WINGS:2EYES:2EARS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:2HEAD_HORN:MOUTH]
   [BODYGLOSS:CLAW]
   [MAXAGE:10:20]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:STANCE:bite:bites:8:8:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
   [CHILD:1][CHILDNAME:skull beetle spawn:skull beetle spawns]
   [SIZE:10]
   [FAT:2]
   [DIURNAL]
   [BIOME:MOUNTAIN]
   [STANDARD_FLESH]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10067]
   [LAYERING:200]
   [MUNDANE]

Population number is the number of population spawned every year on fort map, and cluster number determines how large groups of those will appear until said population will be depleted.

Cluster number also affects ambushers group size.

Whip up the population to 30:50 and they should show up as often as wolves, muskoxen and all those group animals.

PS: And hey, someone still playing 40d, I'm not alone

[TomiTapio]

Population number is the number of population spawned every year on fort map, and cluster number determines how large groups of those will appear until said population will be depleted.

Toady replied to me that he thinks popnumber is creatures per biome map square. See, the size of embark map can vary greatly.

Hello T, a quick question: is POPULATION_NUMBER how many groups live in your embark (or your swamp region); or how many individuals? If you have a cluster_number 10:10 and pop number 3:3, will you run out of them after hunting 3 or 30 of them? Or never run out of them?

Cluster number is how many come in each group, and pop number is the number per square of the region, I think.

[narhiril]

Thought about workshop failures. Came up with these options:
1. a fire starts
2. a deadly contact poison is created (or maybe freezing)
3. a mild poison, bleeding bruising pain, off to hospital for a month
4. created debris, 10 to 30 unwanted junk toys called "scraps" which is an annoyance.
5. created something nasty smelling rotting organic, get miasma soon

Too bad the debris might hurt FPS too much. But would be nice that the failure in workshop made the workshop slower/cluttered!
Heyyy should have a zero-value stone for those junk toys. Anyone already have a no-value stone?

I have done and tested 4 of these 5 ideas already, so I'd be happy to post my raws if someone is interested in how to do this.  The debris chunks idea will eat FPS, but you can also include a "clean up" reaction to get rid of these items.

However, an unintended side effect of the debris idea is that it will very quickly advance the skill when these items are produced, since experience gained is directly tied to the number of products from a given reaction.  If you're very clever, you can use this to your advantage in training workshops.

[Patchouli]

What is it that exactly causes butchering to always yield one skull, regardless of the size of the creature?

[D_E]

I believe it's TOTEMABLE.

Also, many tissue/materials will produce only one of that type of tissue/material per creature (like skin.  Creatures usually produce only one piece of skin).  I think what drives this behavior is the material used.  I believe that as long as the material doesn't have a butcher special tag and doesn't have the BONE tag, it will stay in one piece during butchering and therefore produce only one item of that material.