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[Shades]

No its the sign of a dis-honest hypocrite. And also a whore. If you change or abandon your principles whenever they become inconveinient then what good are they?

If you blindly follow your principles even when they are proven to be stupid then what good are they?

[RedKing]

No its the sign of a dis-honest hypocrite. And also a whore. If you change or abandon your principles whenever they become inconveinient then what good are they?

If you blindly follow your principles even when they are proven to be stupid then what good are they?

But in this case, if the only "proof" is that they weren't electorally successful, then that's not much of a reason.

[fenrif]

No its the sign of a dis-honest hypocrite. And also a whore. If you change or abandon your principles whenever they become inconveinient then what good are they?

If you blindly follow your principles even when they are proven to be stupid then what good are they?

I'm not saying blindly follow them, I'm saying abandoning them just because they're inconvienient defeats the whole point of having them (And is the reason no one trusts politicians).

[Leafsnail]

No new evidence has been provided though.  The Liberal Democrats have, however, helped a party who is massively against them on most important issues to power.  Every vote for the Lib Dems was basically a vote for the Conservatives.

[fenrif]

No new evidence has been provided though.  The Liberal Democrats have, however, helped a party who is massively against them on most important issues to power.  Every vote for the Lib Dems was basically a vote for the Conservatives.

Yaaaaaay politics.

[Thief^]

A lot of the votes for lib dems were "against labour" votes anyway (ditto for conservatives), so those people get what they voted for. Not Labour.

EDIT: Probably importantly, they're still putting a bill before parliament for voting reform.

[Starver]

No new evidence has been provided though.  The Liberal Democrats have, however, helped a party who is massively against them on most important issues to power.  Every vote for the Lib Dems was basically a vote for the Conservatives.

To be fair, though, there'd be as many (more?) people making the equivalent comment in response to them cosying up to Labour.

As far as votes are concerned, the Conservatives didn't win, Labour didn't win, Lib Dems didn't win.  Labour may be better off for having lost the chance of a merger, the core/grassroots Conservatives might well wish they were in opposition again instead of how they are, Lib Dems appear to have the balance of power but only time will tell whether that goes as planned.  Who knows if "The Public"[1] won.  I personally think not, but that we'll survive it anyway and get on with life.

[1] Apparently "The Public" voted unanimously for a hung parliament.  Well, no... Maybe people liked the idea of it and even voted accordingly to do their bit to attain that end, but nobody actually put a cross against "hung parliament" on a voting form.  Everyone voted for someone specific (if they voted/got to vote, and didn't then spoil their paper) and it was a far from unanimous mish-mash of different voting intentions that gave us our result.

[Pre-posting additional reply]

A lot of the votes for lib dems were "against labour" votes anyway (ditto for conservatives), so those people get what they voted for. Not Labour.

EDIT: Probably importantly, they're still putting a bill before parliament for voting reform.

The trouble is that the surge was arguably away from the Lib Dems, so most "against <standing candidate>" votes would have had to have been countered by "towards conservative" votes to get the result we had.  Well, more complex than that, but YSWIM.

[RedKing]

So....the only way to solve this is to divide Britain into three roughly equal pieces, reassign everyone based on their voting preferences, and fight to the death.

[Starver]

So....the only way to solve this is to divide Britain into three roughly equal pieces, reassign everyone based on their voting preferences, and fight to the death.

This is Great Britain[1], we don't fight to the death.  We grumble at people.  Mostly we'd be grumbling about being relocated to wherever we ended up, of course, or who was relocated next to wherever we managed to stay.  We'd change from being a nation of NIMBYs to a vocal mix of NIYBYs and NIMBYs.


[1] For now I'll ignore NI.  And inner city youths.

[TheDarkJay]

Still, this is probably the first election in a long time where Apathy didn't get the winning vote.

 Usually Britain can be summed up with: "What do we want? A pork pie and a pint! When do we want it? Whenever!"

[Nilocy]

Still, this is probably the first election in a long time where Apathy didn't get the winning vote.

 Usually Britain can be summed up with: "What do we want? A pork pie and a pint! When do we want it? Whenever!"

Did you vote this year?

[TheDarkJay]

Still, this is probably the first election in a long time where Apathy didn't get the winning vote.

 Usually Britain can be summed up with: "What do we want? A pork pie and a pint! When do we want it? Whenever!"

Did you vote this year?

Honestly, no. And the Conservatives beat labour by 400 votes in my area. It was more disgust with every one of the parties than Apathy what won for me. If I went it'd be only to ruin a ballot paper in protest, and that would be a complete waste of my time.

And if the world starts burning as a result, well....hand me a fiddle ^^

[Nilocy]

Ok, you have no say in anything that happens with the country then.

[TheDarkJay]

Ok, you have no say in anything that happens with the country then.

This is a complete failure of logic on your part.

"So, do you want to be raped with my penis or a large steel rod?", "Well quite frankly I can't see how either one is better..." "THEN YOU DESERVE EVERYTHING YOU GET!" -,,,-

If I hadn't have looked at the different parties, you may have had a point, but I *did* look. I did look at the manifestos, I watched the debates, I googled and bbc newsed and everything.... I could not, after all of this, in good consciousness, pick one of these parties over the other. Voting for one of the parties would have been me simply walking in, picking an entirely random party and then walking out...are you saying that would have been better than simply not voting?

[ed boy]

you should have voted for the monster raving loonies, that's what.